do hi-points get better with age?

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i've had a hi-point c-9 for a while, and i got it used, and i geuss it probably had 50 rounds through it. i'll say the myth is true, you cant get a hi-point that can go through a full mag without jamming. however i've put 3 more boxes of plain lead ammo, and it can get through a full mag the majority of the time.

i read on alot of other forums people saying "i've put 500 rounds through it and it hasn't jammed once". i can promise you, those people either work for the company, or know nothing about hi-points, because that would be impossible. but i did read that you have to break them in sometimes to function properly.

it cant function at all in the gangsta style or whateve ayoob calls it, or it will jam on every round.

over all, im more satisfied with it, the longer i have it, although im a little pissed that pro-mag hasn't released the 15 round clip for the 995 wich will fit the c-9 also. and im not going to order it over the phone, because 1 woman handles all the calls, and she's a stupid bitch, who cant even speak english, so i'll have to wait until they have them in the store.

but does anybody have experience with hi-points who can tell me if this is true? so far i say it is. would it jam less if i only used fmj's? alot of intra-tec firearms could only take fmj's so i was wondering if this is true for the hi-point. i've never shot them in the c9 so i dont know. the only thing i've used is jhp's and plain lead rounds.

any help or advice would be appreciated.


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i can promise you, those people either work for the company, or know nothing about hi-points, because that would be impossible.

Just curious, how would it be impossible?

I never really though much of Hi-Points until I got on the discussion boards and people either absolutely hated them or loved them. It seemed that the overwhelming majority who liked them were ones who actually owned them. Being the curious type, decided the buy one and find out myself.

I've had a C-9 COMP for a while but don't shoot it much any more due to other newer firearms I'm shooting. IIRC, it has over 600 rounds through it and only had 2 failures, on a FTF, the other I don't recall the type. It has eaten nothing but ball (FMJ). You might want to try that. The ogive of hollowpoints cause problems for some guns, the C-9 could be one (I've never shot HP or lead through mine).

Also, a minor issue, you might want to polish up on your language. Doesn't bother me but could bother some folks and is on the borderline for this forum.
 
Racial epithets are definately not the High Road. As for the Hi-Point, not good to begin with, but the lifetime guarentee means the company IS working on it!
 
sorry

i wasn't being racist, and i apologize about the language. i was just trying to get my point across that if your going to let 1 person to handle all phone calls, they should pick somebody that has an iq above 70, and can speak, and understand clear english.

thanks for the suggestion about the fmj's, as soon as i feel like walking to the gun store, i'll definately try it out. :)
 
Really owning just one specimen from a company you can't disqualify what others may have to say no matter what your experience may be. My brother bought one of the .45acp models years ago. It's not a thing of beauty or great engineering, but it would fire if kept clean and fed ball ammo. For the price you got what you paid for and a little bit more.

BTW...I'll not comment on the wording, but why were you trying to shoot the pistol that way to even know that it won't function? Was it the pistol or your technique that failed?
 
joseph,

Hi-Point pistols tend to be a bit rough when new, and most often require a 250-500 round breakin period for things to smooth out and settle down. This is not uncommon in the more expensive semi-auto's either, I have several pistols in the $300-$600 range that jammed quiet often the first 500 rounds but settled down once the roughness was smoothed out and the springs worn in.

The best ammo to use during the breakin period is NEW factory loaded ball, Full Metal Jacketed ammo with brass cases. The harder copper coated bullet will help smooth out the feed ramp, chamber and inside of the magazine lips. Lead bullets tend to get snagged on rough surfaces during the feeding process and can cause jams. Another issue with lead bullets is that during the loading/cycling process, small shavings from the bullet can get into the action area's and cause problems.

Since the Hi-Point is a simple blowback action semi-auto, it requires a bit more attention to detail when cleaning. A blowback pistol, regardless of the name on the gun, needs to be cleaned more often and kept cleaner than locked breech guns in the same caliber. Lubrication is important in blowback pistols, this helps maintain a slick surface at the contact points for the slide. I have found that a Teflon based light wet lubricant works best in my blowback action pistols, Rem-Oil is what I use and it seems to work great for me in all my guns. Heavier lubes like Break-Free tend to gum up faster in blowback pistols, requiring a more detailed cleaning at shorter intervals.

Several friends and co-workers own Hi-Points in .380 and 9mm chamberings, all of which I have fired fairly extensively. Initially I was trying to prove that their pistols were inferior to mine when it came to reliability and performance. Their pistols performed just as well as some of my high dollar guns in the same calibers and were equal to performance as my low end pistols. Ammo selection is as important in the Hi-Point as it is in a more expensive pistol, so try several different brands and types of ammo and see what the gun works best with. One of my $400 .380 pistols will not reliably feed certain brands of JHP ammo, but a $79 Davis .380 I have will eat anything that I put in the gun.

If you are still having problems with the pistol after 250-500 rounds of FMJ ammo, by all means contact MKS at http://www.mkssupply.com and arrange to send the pistol in for warrenty work.

squirrel-shooter
 
My view on Hi-Points is, if you get one and it works, fine. If you get one and you have problems, it is not worth fixing. Just sell it at a loss or trade it in on a real gun.

I have never understood why anyone would ever buy a Hi-Point when there are plenty of good used guns that can be had for about the same price. Star BM, Makarov, Bersa .380s, CZ-52s even S&W .38spls can sometimes be had for near Hi-Point prices.

As for the comment on the person not being able to speak English, I can understand why that is annoying. I hate it when I call some place for tech support and i get someone who I can't even understand! Their only job is to talk on the phone and they can't be understood. I called Avis one time to rent a van for a week or longer for a vaction. I must have been connected to the India office or something because I had a hard time understanding him and I am good at understanding accents. My wife is not from this country and she has many friends from all over the world and I can often usderstand them with no effort. Anyway, it was clear that this guy was just reading the info off the website and giving me that info. I was looking to make some kind of deal since I was going to be needing it for at least a week and wanted to put some miles on it. He gave me the web site info that I already checked and nothing more. He was rude when I asked him to repeat himself and he actually hung oup on me! I will simply NEVER do any business with Avis again. If that want to save a few dollars by shippiing American jobs oversees that is fine but I am not going to support them.
 
Hi-Points do get better with age.

The older you get, the more likely you are to forget about all the ftf and fte!

I'm not knocking your choice in handguns. They're cheap enough and some folks don't have a ton of problems. I have two buddies who have Hi-Ponits and both feel they've got their money's worth.

Good luck and safe shooting!
 
yes they do............ read on

yes hi-points do get better with age, they will rust, turn orange and will be dust again sometime. best advise is to speed up time is to dump it in a river somewhere :evil:
 
As paperweights, HiPoints seem to "season" rather well, sort of like an iron skillet.
I have handled them, but in my opinion they are death traps.
 
In my CCW class the instructor went around to all of us and picked out people who he thought might end up "dead" in a confrontation because of their choice of weapon. He was basically betting that a person's pistol would jam before that required rounds were fired.

Some folks took him up on it, some didn't. I did, but I cheated a little. I took my shooting part of the test w/ my colt woodsman. He didn't like my ammo, so he thought maybe it would make it. It didn't. The remington ammo I bought at Wally world jammed didn't fire twice out of fifty rounds. (with very good rim shots)

Anyway. He bet a buy a cheeseburger (which he already got from me) that his brand-new high point .45 wouldn't make 50 rounds w/o a problem. You know what? it made 150 rounds. Three guys used the same pistol for their test. 50 rounds each. Back to back. No problems.

Ok, high point pistols suck right? That one worked.

My dad's carbine is a great (albeit ugly as hell) weapon.

I don't know what to think about hi-point except that I will be buying a carbine and reading posts about how bad the pistols are...

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The high-point must be hit or miss.

The one i got was junk. Would not feed right and jammed all the time.

Than one night ii was cleaning it , i had the top slide off and not thinking pull the trigger. I had little parts all over the place. I also bent some thing and now i the mag doesn;t seat. :cuss:


Some day i get around to send into them.



It also worked fine as a hammer, one night the float stuck got my truck and it was only thing i could find in the truck to fix it. :neener:
 
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since when did high - points come out with plastic slides and springs ??? DUH !!! :neener:
 
oh my god

if i knew there would be so many politically correct women on a firearms forum, i wouldn't have said those things. maybe "african american" and "the n word" would have worked better. i feel like im one of these coward white people in the media that lay down for blacks, excuse me african americans.

and anyway, i put it in quotations, because if any of you knew who massad ayoob was, you would know he called it something like that.

no i dont apologize, because whoever was offended is a liberal, and i hate liberals.

as far as me being able to judge hi-points by one gun, if a gun jams on the third round almost every time, i would think it's safe to say another gun, with the exact same design wouldn't be much better. but again i havn't shot fmj's through it.

they call themselves that all the time, grow a spine for christs sake.
 
and glocker, they have a powdercoated finished slide, that wont rust. the only thing that has rusted is the screws holding the rear site in.
 
They are dangerous/


Because some folks carry real guns! :p

I never have understood their appeal when you can get a quailty milsurp for the same general price. They are huge unwieldy beasts so you can't CCW one.
 
I bought a used C9 at a gun show recently and found the innards were really worn down and it would FTE like crazy. Sent it back, they replaced practically everything on the gun and no more problems after 500 rounds.

Oh, and LOVE the sound it makes. People next to me at the range stop and take a look every time I bring it out.

Edit: When I say C9, I mean 9mm Carbine.
 
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