Marvin Gardens
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I'll take your word for the numbers on the NYPD. I stand corrected.
Regards,
Marvin
Regards,
Marvin
do US PD's stil issue sixguns?
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Dan,
The US Marshal Service’s headquarters is a located in the same building complex as my office in Crystal City (Arlington), Virginia. I see their folks – executives to the entry-level (many getting on in years, aren’t we all?) – in the Underground daily while getting lunch. For whatever it is worth, I see nothing but Glocks.
Have a joyous Christmas -- Roy
The US Marshal Service’s headquarters is a located in the same building complex as my office in Crystal City (Arlington), Virginia. I see their folks – executives to the entry-level (many getting on in years, aren’t we all?) – in the Underground daily while getting lunch. For whatever it is worth, I see nothing but Glocks.
Have a joyous Christmas -- Roy
Ala Dan
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Thanks Roy My Friend-
I didn't think the Marshal's Service would let him
tote that revolver too long. Another friend, told
me that he had been trying to get him to convert
to a self-loader for quite a few years. I guess he
(like most of us) is (or was) set in his way's?
Happy Holiday's,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member
I didn't think the Marshal's Service would let him
tote that revolver too long. Another friend, told
me that he had been trying to get him to convert
to a self-loader for quite a few years. I guess he
(like most of us) is (or was) set in his way's?
Happy Holiday's,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member
I know of only a few local departments that wouldn't let an officer carry a revolver, if he wanted to. I know of none that still issue them, though.
I've got to carry that old Colt's Officer's Model Match 6" that I qualify with with, some Sunday evening.
Gassy old revolver, and I've got an old snap down basketweave holster for it. Just need to put together a second rig.
I've got to carry that old Colt's Officer's Model Match 6" that I qualify with with, some Sunday evening.
Gassy old revolver, and I've got an old snap down basketweave holster for it. Just need to put together a second rig. 
Mannlicher
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CZF says :Given the fact that the S&W Military and Police model was designed in
1899. That's the technology you get when you carry a DA revolver
for your main sidearm."
...........and knives were fully developed long before that, but a knife is still a darn usefull, and desireable weapon.
...........and the 1911 platform was not much later then the S&W. In fact, almost everything associated with gun design was invented around that time. Old Technology indeed.
1899. That's the technology you get when you carry a DA revolver
for your main sidearm."
...........and knives were fully developed long before that, but a knife is still a darn usefull, and desireable weapon.
...........and the 1911 platform was not much later then the S&W. In fact, almost everything associated with gun design was invented around that time. Old Technology indeed.
BluesBear
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Old Technology
As a professional musician I am somewhat familiar with "Old Technology".
Forgetting the violin family, ignoring the woodwind family whose newest member is the Saxophone and disregarding the Brass instruments.
Electric Guitars are relatively New Technology. Now look around. What are the most common electric guitars?
Fender Telecaster = 1948
Fender Telecaster = 1954
Gibson Les Paul = 1952
Gibson ES335 = 1958
Gibson Flying V & Explorer = 1958
Gibson Firebird = 1963
Quality is quality. Quality is timeless. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
And also don't forget that new fangled internal combustion engine that hauls your guns & ammo to the range.
As a professional musician I am somewhat familiar with "Old Technology".
Forgetting the violin family, ignoring the woodwind family whose newest member is the Saxophone and disregarding the Brass instruments.
Electric Guitars are relatively New Technology. Now look around. What are the most common electric guitars?
Fender Telecaster = 1948
Fender Telecaster = 1954
Gibson Les Paul = 1952
Gibson ES335 = 1958
Gibson Flying V & Explorer = 1958
Gibson Firebird = 1963
Quality is quality. Quality is timeless. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
And also don't forget that new fangled internal combustion engine that hauls your guns & ammo to the range.
Joe Demko
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In lots of smaller agencies that have a"buy yer own" policy, you'll see lots of revolvers.
Sunray
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I don' t think any issued the GP100. Too heavy. The flatfeet would be whining and crying about it still. Most Canadian city cops get a semi, just like yours do. The difference between your cops and our isn't that much. Most of 'em never saw a firearm before they got hired and most don't shoot the issue piece unless they have to. Very few shoot as a hobby. Cops are not a good role model for shooters. Unless you think contstant accidental shootings, rampant inability to shoot straight and regular mass panic when they do shoot with the resulting spraying of lead are good things. Our cops know very little about firearms or firearm law. Just because a guy carries a firearm at work doesn't mean he knows anything.
Smoke
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Doesn't Fort Worth, TX PD still issue revolvers?
They did a few years ago...not sure if it still true. I haven't been up there to pay attention in a while.
Smoke
They did a few years ago...not sure if it still true. I haven't been up there to pay attention in a while.
Smoke
In lots of smaller agencies that have a"buy yer own" policy, you'll see lots of revolvers.
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You may fine a revolver here and there. I personally have not seen one since 1998 and that officer has since retired from that department. Most officers buy Glocks and 1911's when allowed to buy what they want followed by Sigs, Beretta's, HK's and a variety of other da autos.
Sunray some police officers are not good role models for shooters some are. Most are better shooters than the average gun owner. Most are not as good as the average gun nut like we on these boards are. I feel alot safer on a police range than on a public range. I have had rounds come down range when I was changing a target on a public range. I would say about 25% of police shooters are very good, 25% suck and 50% are average. Thats based on my experience of trianing them.
Pat
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You may fine a revolver here and there. I personally have not seen one since 1998 and that officer has since retired from that department. Most officers buy Glocks and 1911's when allowed to buy what they want followed by Sigs, Beretta's, HK's and a variety of other da autos.
Sunray some police officers are not good role models for shooters some are. Most are better shooters than the average gun owner. Most are not as good as the average gun nut like we on these boards are. I feel alot safer on a police range than on a public range. I have had rounds come down range when I was changing a target on a public range. I would say about 25% of police shooters are very good, 25% suck and 50% are average. Thats based on my experience of trianing them.
Pat
In the past few months I've been in several local Social Security offices and the security guards (are they Federal employees?)have all been carrying Ruger GP100's/SS. If they're govt employees I find it interesting that they are buying GP100's. If they aren't goverment employees then disregard.
My recollection is that departments started to go to autos during the '80s when they realized they were outgunned by gang-bangers toting mega capacity 9 mm's. Of course now that anything over 10 rds is banned we dont have that problem. Right?
Anyway, I think a lot of it is economics. I dont know what Glock charges in their LEO program but my impression is it isnt much. I suspect a wheel gun costs more. That might explain it right there.
A second issue could be that it takes a lot of training to be really proficient with a revolver and a little less to be proficient with the auto. You can make up for lack of proficiency with the second shot (you hope) so capacity becomes important,more important than power, which is a revolver's strong point.
But I think economics and capacity more than anything else probably explain why so few PDs issue them.
Anyway, I think a lot of it is economics. I dont know what Glock charges in their LEO program but my impression is it isnt much. I suspect a wheel gun costs more. That might explain it right there.
A second issue could be that it takes a lot of training to be really proficient with a revolver and a little less to be proficient with the auto. You can make up for lack of proficiency with the second shot (you hope) so capacity becomes important,more important than power, which is a revolver's strong point.
But I think economics and capacity more than anything else probably explain why so few PDs issue them.
Rob96
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Over at Glock Talk, it was stated that Corpus Christi still issues revolvers, but they also have a buy your own policy as well. But apparently there are officers that take the wheelie.
Glock did an excellent job of making a simple sidearm that works well for leo use. They also market it very well. Our 21's cost the department about $350 thats with nightsights. There are cheaper revolvers and autos but they are not as good of guns as Glocks are. Personally besides 1911's Glocks are my preferred sidearms and I would pay more for them if I had too.
Pat
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Rob96
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snubby
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If true, then you need to get your (supposedly republican) Gov. Taft to sign it-- have heard he's not too supportive of the 2A, for whatever reason.
BluesBear
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Anyone else want popcorn?
snubby
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Agree with M58 that there are some "bad apples" out there. Thanks, Pat, for defending the rank-and-file PO.
Echoing the Rabbi -- this thread is now off-subject and ad hominen.
Echoing the Rabbi -- this thread is now off-subject and ad hominen.
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