Do we really need any more calibers?

[Andrew Wyatt]

why the .45 glock is neat.

four words.


.45 caliber browning hi-power. 'nuff said.

 

[BigG]

Yes. I really need them to design a .14/378 Weatherby. There is a mouse I'm dying to try it on.

 

[Matt G]

While I don't percieve a real need for some new calibers, I don't understand the huhu about them from those who don't need 'em. Unless you can:

• [a]show a drawback to them, and
  show that it is being shoved down your throat against your will (eg: you're a cop whose agency is adopting weapons in the new inefficient round for issue),

...I just don't see a problem.

.38 Super was a plagued cartridge until they started making barrels for it that headspaced on the case mouth. The modern version would have to be the .357 Sig.

The market competed for .40's back when. The .41 AE went away, the 10mm stayed (kinda), and the .40 was spawned. Oh, yeah: that was the platform for the aforementioned .357 Sig, which is a keeper.

Back in the day, everyone and his dog seemed to carry naught but the .38 special. It was the standard in the police industry, in the 158g LRN, no less (or no more, rather)! Well, you had a certain homogeneous-ness to cartridges in use at the time, and don't you look wistfully bak to those days?

Gimme the world of nutty off-beat tryouts. You and I are the judges, and if the cartridge is a winner, we get to say so. Tell me that's not phun!

-M.G.

 

[Atticus]

"why the .45 glock is neat.
four words.


.45 caliber browning hi-power. 'nuff said."


Andrew - CZ97

 

[Andrew Wyatt]

that's double action and way, way fatter than a hi-power.

 

[Atticus]

True. But it exists.

 

[Andrew Wyatt]

it's also not a hi power.


the safety is in a different spot. the slide is inside the frame instead of outside, andnone of the parts interchange with a hi power.

 

[Atticus]

No, but if a HP was converted to .45, it would no longer be a HP.

Seriously though, a .45 acp HP would be awesome.

 

[Andrew Wyatt]

but with the .45 glock, you don't have to compromize the handling qualities or frame size. you'd just need to change the magazine, barrel and slide.

 

[Atticus]

But the Glock started out bad...unlike the HP.

Just kidding Glocksters!

 

[Dave R]

"No, but if a HP was converted to .45, it would no longer be a HP."

Yup. It would be a 1911.

I guess a double-stack 1911, to get technical. Doesn't Para-Ordinance make one? Anyone else?

 

[Byron Quick]

It seems like they would rather come out with some stupid new caliber to shove down our throats like that 45Glock .

Who shoved one down your throat? I'd take a warrant out to have them arrested for assault with intent to kill.

It's not a question of need...it's a question of want.

And if you don't want it...don't buy it.

Thus far, I have about 20 different calibers. Just think how many I'm lacking

And who knows? Someone just might build the better mousetrap...but that won't happen if innovation and experimentation is stifled, now will it?

 

[Carbon_15]

I have to agree...A gun with the exact dimensions and handling charactaristics of the HP with the ballistics of a .45 would be nice. The .45Glock opens up alot of doors. .45glock Beretta 92's, .45Glock CZ-75's, etc. All of the guns that have perfect fit and feel, now chambered for a more capable cartridge. I for one can't wait.

The big IF is, will the .45glock actualy duplicate the power of the .45ACP with a 200 grain pill????

 

[Old Fuff]

Carbon_15:

Yes it will. When modern powers are used the regular .45 ACP case has more capacity then's necessary. When the case was shortened all they did was eliminate air-space. The case head on the .45 Glock will also be heavier for better support.