Do yall like your lasers?

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Im thinking about taking the plunge and getting a CT laser grip for my Taurus 38. I cant shoot it very well and I was hoping that this would help.

Did yalls lasers help your shooting?

Are they at all annoying?

Anything I should know?


Thanks. :)
 
I cant shoot it very well and I was hoping that this would help.

Yes and no. I would invest in some personal training...it can make a world of difference. That said, a laser is also an effective training tool and good if your vision isn't top notch.

Did yalls lasers help your shooting?

Certainly, but again, I'd say the training helps more. And there are always circumstances where a laser will help your shooting.

Are they at all annoying?

Only if your hand gets in the way of the laser (as can happen on some of the CT grips).

Anything I should know?

Don't turn your laser on until your are ready to shoot at the BG. Otherwise, the dancing laser on the wall or floor will alert the BG to your location and you can figure out the likely result.


If this is your carry or HD pistol, I'd get the grips and a bit of personal instruction. If it is simply a range gun / fun gun, then I probably wouldn't spring for the CT unless I had the money to blow and just wanted them for the fun of it.
 
Yep. Like 'em.

You have to realize, though, that the laser beam and the bullet path are on two different planes, the laser beam is dead straight and the bullet travels in an arc. The two can only intersect at ONE point, where the laser is zero'ed to the impact point. Therefore, they're not the greatest thing for target shooting, unless you ALWAYS shoot targets at exactly the same distance. But for self defense work, the laser dot will always be close enough to the bullet impact point to do the job.

Zero the laser with the impact point at a distance of your choice at say, 21 feet or less, and you'll be good. Just don't plan on using it for dead-eye target shooting. You have to understand its strengths and limitations. Put the dot on the bad guy's chest at just about any distance, and you got him. But don't think you can use it to put a bullet in a bad guy's ear who's holding a hostage on the other side of the food court at the mall.

I also believe that shining the laser in a BG's eyes would likely be an effective deterrent, but don't count on that as an absolute.
 
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Yes, I really like my Armalaser. In addition to what the two guys above said, it really comes in handy for nightly dry fire practice sessions where I focus on simply pulling the trigger and keeping it on target. Laser doesn't move, I know I had a smooth trigger pull with follow through.
 
I bought an Armalaser RSS for my PF9. Yes it is all most weightless and compact as a rail accessory can get. ...:mad: But it failed to stay on the first time out, its operationally a mess since then with fixes and what not that Armalaser has suggested. I'm a little disappointed, now I want a replacement and the responses from the company are slow or not at all(..where's the wonderful CS I read about). Matter of fact I sent a mildly blasting e-mail last night.
I'm sure it'll be a fine laser when I get working unit...
 
I have ct on 3 guns,sw17-8,sp101,and my lcp.i highly recommend it. Fun and a great learning aide.
 
Mike, I always seemingly get a lemon product first go-round. Lately this has happened with two knives, a gun, and an Armalaser. However, I spoke personally to the owner Rick on the phone, and he sent me a replacement unit on good faith with a SASE included for me to return the defective one and it arrived in about 3 days. Have you tried phone rather than email?
 
I have Crimson Trace grips on three handguns, S&W 637 and 686+, and my old t-series Browning High Power which I carried during Vietnam. I would not buy a handgun that Crimson Trace did not make laser grips for.

Simply as grips, all three sets are at least as good as factory grips (the BHP grips are much better than those wood planks that came with it in 1968). As sighting devices, they are superb for SD/HD situations, but pretty useless for fifty-yard shooting in the noonday sun -- that's where iron sights shine:p! I shoot the BHP and one of the revolvers (usually the 686+) weekly at an indoor range. I train for SD/HD, so the distance is 5-10 yards and double action with a revolver. I'm a senior geezer (far above mere geezers), and I am pretty good (49 out of 50 in COM at that distance).

Some base rejection of laser sights on expense. My question to them is, "How much is your life worth?" Others worry that laser sights give them an unfair advantage. I have nothing to say to them.

Cordially, Jack
 
Get a laser that has a master on-off switch. There may be occasions when you practice where you don't want it "on" and want to conserve batteries.
 
I have a couple 1911's with rails and Streamlight TLR 2's on them. I like the laser but they are relatively worthless for outdoor shooting on a bright sunny day that being said for indoor or at night they are great.
 
I look at them as just another thing that can malfunction and opt for night sights and a flashlight in the other hand. I nearly always get my fingers in the way of the CT grips on the 1911 unless my finger is on the trigger all the time. (yikes right)

They are a nice novelty though.
 
I don't like CT grips mostly cuz I prefer to make my own --hehe.. They do seem to be a decent product though so I won't talk smack.
 
EPG, what's the issue with your shooting? You can't seem to keep the sight picture from moving or you think it looks fine but the bullets just don't go where you thought you were aiming? Either one isn't going to be helped by a laser spot. Only the initial target acquisition will be sped up by the laser. But if you're pulling the gun during the trigger pull or you're flinching when firing live rounds then the bullets will still miss.

Now having the laser may STILL be a great idea since you can dry fire to check your grip and trigger pull for steadiness. When you can avoid the laser wandering by more than a couple of inches at around 10 yards then you'll have passed the need for the laser. But if you can dry fire and keep the laser that planted but your bullets are still grouping bigger than that then it's a flinch that you need to work on. No laser will help for that I'm afraid. But as a training aid for sight picture steadiness it is worth the cost right there in my mind.

Oddly enough something that helped me was taking part in some low pressure club level pistol shooting matches. Be they club leval IPSC or IDPA or something like the Steel Speed Shoot we have the need to hit the target seems to help me concentrate on getting shots off quickly and accurately. In fact I've surprised myself a few times shooting in competition like this where I know if it was just casual plinking I'd have not been as consistently accurate.

And the fact that such events are great fun is a serious bonus. Look around for something like those.
 
The biggest plus to a laser that I see is as a training aid.

But during daylight, as someone else said, they are darned near impossible to see. And though my vision is 20/20, I still find it easier to find the sights in all but pitch black conditions than a teenie tiny red dot jiggling around in the distance. So, I'll stick to point shooting for 7 or so yds and under and sights for 7 or so and up. But that is just my preference, YMMV.
 
I have a CT Lasergrip on my Keltec P3AT and it has made a world of difference given the non-existent sights it comes with. It's great for point shooting and extended my effective range considerably. I have a Glock as my main carry and have trijicon sights, no laser.
Just my set-up, YMMV.
 
They're "a benefit".. no matter

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I have CT grips on my Sig P229 9mm, and can only say that whether using just the 3-dot sights or the laser, the accuracy is there. The big bonus of the laser, least the model grips I have, side buttons, is that I can shoot the gun without activating them using the normal 2 hand grip, or IF I need full SA, both eyes open, I can point, then light up the target and get off several shots, very much, on target, point of laser, and then release the button pressure, just as fast as not to leave a light trail back.

If one can afford them, get past the fact they will humble anyone's perception of a perfectly held aiming point (it will show every movement, aim wise,) and not chase the red dot, which will show trigger jerking, and trust the smooth squeezing off method, needed for constant accuracy, one will get hits close to perfect, and perfect, all the time, from just below chin level or waist level, shooting.

As mentioned, they are an excellent learning tool in grip, aim, and smooth trigger pulls, but they do/will show non-perfection with the slightest movement or trigger-jerk i.e chasing the red dot..

Get past what others will see, past one re-learning gun technique, and past hurrying the shots, and one will reap their use and accuracy with a point and shoot, both eyes open, for far better SA combined with deadly accuracy within 1" or better, of direct bulls eye shots, be them one shot, or multiple shots, with speed.

As far as the what IF question of batteries failing, etc., I can only tell you that the ones that came with my grips and the gun, 2yrs ago, are the original batteries, thru some 5200 flawless rounds, of which, my estimate of shots using the laser are somewhere around the 500 mark and estimating 3 secs of actual laser use per shot, with a battery life of somewhere between 4 - 5hrs of "continuous use" tells me, this is true.

I intend to use them until they fail, as a means of "knowing what to expect", use wise, of the next fresh set of batteries, along with known, aprox. round count, with use of them.

The best assurance they have taught me, given me, is my ability to quickly point and shoot, both eyes open, without actually using them, but they do verify, very quickly, as to my aiming accuracy, and the accuracy of both, using the sights, using the laser, or none of the above, and just pointing and shooting at ranges out to 18ft, give or take, at times.

Also, as mentioned, IF one has not-so-good eye sight i.e. getting focus on the front sight, via glasses, they do point the way for one can see clearly with, or without, use of their glasses.


Ls
 
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i use lasers for one thing, and that is dry fire practice only. i do not use them when i shoot. have i tried them out before wile shooting? yes about ever kind made ct, rail mounted, guide rod type etc, and on all kinds of handguns, but i don't have a need for them.
 
I'll echo the opinion of many here, I have CT grips on my carry and on my 1911. I find that they make a great training aid for dry fire practice. Also in the event your view was obstructed in a defensive situation you could get on target with the use of a mirror or other reflective object.
Unlike what many seem to suggest I don't think they should ever be relied upon as a primary method of targeting. They are after all a combination of electronics and optics, both of which are subject to failure.
I also think they should be adjusted to sight parallel to the barrel of the gun rather than zeroed, especially with Crimson Trace models since a 15 yard zero would result in the dot being high and left at 30 yards etc.


But if you can dry fire and keep the laser that planted but your bullets are still grouping bigger than that then it's a flinch that you need to work on. No laser will help for that I'm afraid.

I disagree with BCRider on this. The laser will help for all dry fire exercises because it gives a visual reference to whatever mistakes you make while shooting. I do agree however that as a training aid alone it is worth the cost. Add to that the value of having one more option in a defensive situation and you can see why I think everyone with a handgun for personal defense should have a laser sight of some type. Not necessarily on all their handguns, but at least on one.
 
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If BG's are breaking into your house and it's pitch black those
lasers come in handy.
 
For small pistols with tiny little sights(like my P3AT), they are a big help. Especially at night when those little sights completely disappear.
 
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