I've been looking at ammo lately and it seems to have been at the same price for the last 6 months or so. 5.56, 7.62x39, surplus 7.62x54r, 5.45x39, 7.62x25 etc has been in the same spot. Is there any chance of it going lower. Same with gun prices, I'm assuming they're as low as they're going to get ???
Does ammo have any more room to fall ?
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CoRoMo
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I sorta think that gun prices could periodically fluctuate lower than they are now, but ammo would have to see some good reductions in the material costs. Haven't metals continued to rise in cost?
mptrimshop
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i think once everyone starts using the ammo they have been stock pilling..the price will fall....if less people are buying they will drop the price
You're looking at the question backwards. The price for; guns, ammo, a good suit of clothes, or a horse and carriage haven't changed, in terms of real goods [ie gold] What has changed is how much you can buy with federal reserve notes. The question should be how much lower can the exchange rate for these go. The more money (debt] the reserve [gov.] prints as greenbacks or treasury notes the less they will be worth. See or google hyperinflation, Wiemar Republic, Zimbabwe Dollar. Given what the plans are for government spending is the dollar due to get stronger or weaker.
chains1240
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I looked at ammo today on CTD. .308 150 grain Core Lokt was only $16 a box. 7mm-08 Fusion was only $23. Seems to me those were more just a week ago. Not sure if my memory serves me correctly though.
bfoosh006
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my 2 cents... cry once, buy now and be content that you bought at a decent price, otherwise you will be kicking yourself for not taking advantage of the decent prices when you could. I'd rather have a few extra cases of ammo, the whole Boy Scout/ be prepared thing.
tango2echo
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I do not believe the prices of guns and ammo will ever fall lower than what they average currently. I think the only change will be a increase.
t2e
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Value of the dollar definitely has something to do with it, especially with non usa made ammo, or components sourced from another country.
One may ask if a weakening dollar is to be so feared, then why on earth would the most steadily growing economy in the world artificially keeps its currency devalued?
There are no absolutes, a weakening dollar has its downfalls, obviously, it also has its upside.
One may ask if a weakening dollar is to be so feared, then why on earth would the most steadily growing economy in the world artificially keeps its currency devalued?
There are no absolutes, a weakening dollar has its downfalls, obviously, it also has its upside.
AnArmyofRon
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My go to guy at a pawn shop that I use a lot said he believes prices will fall soon. Don't know where he gets his info but I imagine the huge gun buying surge is tapering and at the prices listed guns just aren't moving. Lower the price and you sell.
Prices on common ammo like 5.56 and .223 has dropped significantly in the last 4-6 weeks alone, at least on the internet.
Devaluation of the dollar has less to do with it than the rapid falloff in demand as people have slowed their stockpiling and the flow of new shooters has begun to slow.
I think prices will drop a bit more (maybe 10-15%) over the next three months as commodity prices continue to drop back to earth. I saw reputable estimates from Kiplinger that claimed copper would drop 30% this year, which will definitely help ammo prices.
Devaluation of the dollar has less to do with it than the rapid falloff in demand as people have slowed their stockpiling and the flow of new shooters has begun to slow.
I think prices will drop a bit more (maybe 10-15%) over the next three months as commodity prices continue to drop back to earth. I saw reputable estimates from Kiplinger that claimed copper would drop 30% this year, which will definitely help ammo prices.
PMROY
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I hate to be Dr. Doom. but, based on the ever expanding money supply, the historically low lending rates(from the Fed) and the mess in Europe, we are looking at an INCREASE( in value
) in price very soon. The price quoted locally for 1K of 5.56 is now the same as early 2008. The bitch is that the probability of Hyper Inflation has risen dramatically.
In other words the changes in demand and supply( to our benefit) will be offset due to the reduction in the Value of the dollar. It is possible that the price per round will decrease a little more, but, since the currency will not be worth as much, we will be paying more in non-adjusted dollars. The benefit is figuring out when the two intersect, inflation going up and the value of the dollar going down.(and we would all be rich!)
So if you got the money, buy what you can now, it might seem cheaper later, but it's not.:banghead:
) in price very soon. The price quoted locally for 1K of 5.56 is now the same as early 2008. The bitch is that the probability of Hyper Inflation has risen dramatically.In other words the changes in demand and supply( to our benefit) will be offset due to the reduction in the Value of the dollar. It is possible that the price per round will decrease a little more, but, since the currency will not be worth as much, we will be paying more in non-adjusted dollars. The benefit is figuring out when the two intersect, inflation going up and the value of the dollar going down.(and we would all be rich!)
So if you got the money, buy what you can now, it might seem cheaper later, but it's not.:banghead:
Aaron Baker
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I hate to rain on the gold-standard parade. (Who am I kidding? No I don't.)
But the truth is that if there's a higher demand for raw materials, such as copper and brass, then even if we had gold-backed currency (or god forbid, had to pay for goods in pure gold), the cost of ammunition in gold would be higher when the demand was higher.
And while it may be riskier to use currency not backed by a precious metal standard, the value of gold is not intrinsic to the material itself. Gold only has value because we agree it has value, same as Federal Reserve Notes. As long as we're agreeing on a fiction, does it really matter that much which one we agree on? The only difference with gold is you can't make more--there's a finite supply--while you can always print more money. But you can horde gold and mine more gold. It's still not as stable as bartering.
The cost of ammunition may never reach the lows it once enjoyed, it probably will reach a level that is commensurate with the price of other goods in terms of inflation. As long as the price of raw materials goes back down, that is.
Aaron
But the truth is that if there's a higher demand for raw materials, such as copper and brass, then even if we had gold-backed currency (or god forbid, had to pay for goods in pure gold), the cost of ammunition in gold would be higher when the demand was higher.
And while it may be riskier to use currency not backed by a precious metal standard, the value of gold is not intrinsic to the material itself. Gold only has value because we agree it has value, same as Federal Reserve Notes. As long as we're agreeing on a fiction, does it really matter that much which one we agree on? The only difference with gold is you can't make more--there's a finite supply--while you can always print more money. But you can horde gold and mine more gold. It's still not as stable as bartering.
The cost of ammunition may never reach the lows it once enjoyed, it probably will reach a level that is commensurate with the price of other goods in terms of inflation. As long as the price of raw materials goes back down, that is.
Aaron
oneounceload
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Lead has gone up steadily over the last month (at least for shot), therefore, i suspect that for the moment, prices won't drop that much, if at all
Kentucky_Rifleman
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IMO, inflation and devaluation of the dollar will certainly have an impact in the long run, but the immediate future will be dictated by supply and demand. When the national panic cleared store shelves of ammo and then reloading supplies and equipment demand drove prices through the roof. Suppliers like Remington, Federal, Etc. could not have predicted the explosion in sales as everyone hoarded every kind of ammunition they could find.
We essentially exhausted a 24 month rotating inventory when we panicked. The panic subsided, suppliers began to catch up, and most importantly, people started selling off some of the stuff they had hoarded.
Prices should continue to drop at least through the end of summer, especially on niche components like reloading tools and supplies. I know too many people who have never reloaded a cartridge in their lives who went out and bought full setups - presses, dies, bullets, powders, primers, etc. - so they could reload when the ammunition dried up. Now, I'm seeing a lot of that stuff filtering back out into the marketplace on Gunbroker and at gunshows.
This summer may be the best time ever to get into reloading, as I think there will be a glut of "used" tools and materials, and the prices of all it will bottom out.
Just my 1.5 cents worth,
KR
We essentially exhausted a 24 month rotating inventory when we panicked. The panic subsided, suppliers began to catch up, and most importantly, people started selling off some of the stuff they had hoarded.
Prices should continue to drop at least through the end of summer, especially on niche components like reloading tools and supplies. I know too many people who have never reloaded a cartridge in their lives who went out and bought full setups - presses, dies, bullets, powders, primers, etc. - so they could reload when the ammunition dried up. Now, I'm seeing a lot of that stuff filtering back out into the marketplace on Gunbroker and at gunshows.
This summer may be the best time ever to get into reloading, as I think there will be a glut of "used" tools and materials, and the prices of all it will bottom out.
Just my 1.5 cents worth,
KR
LiveLife
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Also, the various wars being fought is driving the price of ammunition as military contract buying is competing for civilian buying - The law of supply and demand.
Even if the wars end, as posted earlier, price of raw materials have gone up in recent years and IMO this will dictate higher than pre-war levels.
Even if the wars end, as posted earlier, price of raw materials have gone up in recent years and IMO this will dictate higher than pre-war levels.
SpeedAKL
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Inflation of the US dollar and another commodities boom as the world economy picks up are the two biggest threats to low ammo prices. Our government's fiscal insanity has me worried. Pumping this many dollars into the economy is almost guaranteed to produce inflation when the economy gets rolling again and eventually result in 70s-style stagflation.
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Yes, I beleive ammo will continue to drop in price at least through this summer.
rangerruck
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it could, if a few things happen; the biggest being what happens with healthcare; we need to give this prez a loss. this will give big confidence to big business out there; they won't be so affraid of him any more, and will stabilize economic and production markets out there. Less anxiety produces more ... well... production! Secondly, what happens in about 8 months...
then we can say no more laws passed secretly, against gun ownership, mfgrng, bullet makers, second amend rights , etc. " ... and then the spice... will... flow..." homage to a movie you know.
then we can say no more laws passed secretly, against gun ownership, mfgrng, bullet makers, second amend rights , etc. " ... and then the spice... will... flow..." homage to a movie you know.
bubbaturbo
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It will decrease in price.
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