Does it drive you nuts when someone leaves a gun review who hasn't fired or cleaned the gun yet?

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  1. george burns

    george burns Member

    May 26, 2014
    I am getting to the point in my life where I just can't tolerate people who are stupid and waste other peoples time. I can't help but get annoyed when I go to a site like Buds or any oter gun site including Utube, and look up Gun reviews for a gun I might be looking at purchasing only to find after reading a few seconds that the guy hasn't fired the gun, or it's his first gun, and he has absolutely nothing to compare it to.
    Things like "I took it out of the box, and it sure looks like it's going to be a great shooter" but I haven't fired it yet and it's my first gun.
    Or I got a 1911, and it looks real nice, but haven't shot it yet, what is a hollow point? Should I use lead bullets for self defense, my buddy told me they are good I am carrying it but haven't fired it yet.
    Or why would anyone need more than 5 bullets. Who shoots deer with an AR-15 machine gun.
    There should be a new Trump law passed immediately, anyone who posts a statement and doesn't have the implied information, get's flogged in the town square. This may lead to a lot of flogging, but it may create more jobs. It's almost as bad as the VP candidate, Tim what's his name , wanting to ban guns because of a knife attack.
    We need a Bar to be able to clear to seperate the "normal " folks from the Milenials, or whatever these folks are, it just seems like many folks lack common sense, and it's spreading.
    IE: I have a stepson-in law, who we allowed into the family somehow, and he is like talking to a Beaver. I, I, I just don't understand why you guys think you need all those bullets, "no Breath", they need to change that law, I say Doug, that law is the second amendment to the Constitution that my 5 uncles and father fought and some were badly injured in. It's the basis of our country, Yea, yea, they have to fix that, says he. I say, who has to fix that. And the coverstion slowly dies as my wife gives me that leave it alone, it's Thanksgiving, again.
    That is about as much thought as the average anti gun person gives this.
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  2. Walkalong

    Walkalong Moderator Staff Member

    Nov 20, 2006
    You're getting too old to let it bother you. ;)
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  3. VThillman

    VThillman Member

    Jan 15, 2015
    Southeastern Vermont
    Does it drive me nuts? Too late for that. Doesn't bother me, because it's usually excited enthusiasm/anticipation that has to be 'let out'. I'm just glad for evidence someone can get enthusiastic these days.
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  4. Kookla

    Kookla Member

    Feb 17, 2015
    I agree. There are in depth reviews and there are general observations.

    My favorite reviews are admittedly the most scarce, probably because it would be the most time consuming. The ones where the reviewer gives some history on the firearm itself, talks about the features, then starts putting several different types of ammunition through it, maybe even handload for it. In a nutshell, they are wringing it out as best they can. I prefer informative content on the firearm to things being padded with music, joke attempts/puns, and going off tangent about other things.
  5. Erik M

    Erik M Member

    Jun 14, 2009
    Hails from Parts Unknown
    You have to appreciate (sarcasm) the ones that give the firearm a bad review because a supplier shipped it slow or the local FFL had bad customer service too.
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  6. X-Rap

    X-Rap Member

    Sep 23, 2006
    You see the same thing here. Someone has a case of nostalgia or sees a gun or sight etc, on a movie, YouTube or their favorite video game and when the gun is received the anticipation reaches a fever pitch until the gun is inspected or shot and the sadness is palpable. But if someone does side by side actual tests they are shill's or fanboys.
  7. Sammael94

    Sammael94 Member

    Aug 11, 2016
    Billings, MT area
    It does bug me a bit, but then again, a lot of things bug me a bit. It's more important to be welcoming of new gun owners who may not yet know the implicit expectations we as a community have going into something like a review. Remember that patience is a virtue.
  8. hdwhit

    hdwhit Member

    Nov 16, 2015
    Salem, AR
    I have no problem with a video where the person who made it discloses their knowledge (or lack thereof). I'm more concerned with people who want to set themselves up as experts and then behave as if it is the first time they have handled a gun. They are the ones who are liable to get someone injured or killed. Still, those among us who are more experienced and knowledgeable could use the comment section on YouTube to educate the person who posted the video. Asking, for example, what gun(s) are the comparing it to when they say it is good or bad.
  9. MaterDei

    MaterDei Member

    Sep 23, 2003
    I don't like reviews beyond looks, fit and finish, etc. from people that don't have a lot of trigger time on the firearm in question. That is why I really appreciate nutnfacy, his reviews are his opinion but they are based on solid, long term use. Hickok45 has become a bud's shill and doesn't do nearly as much real world testing. I do admire his shooting skills though and I like his reviews even though they are generally based upon only a few hundred rounds shot at his range.
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  10. Scooter22

    Scooter22 Member

    Apr 2, 2012
    Central NY, not the rotten apple
    You have to take all reviews with a grain of salt. A BIG one. I've read and seen them where, as you said, they haven even used the product. I was looking at snow tires and many of the reviews gave high marks on the graph but in the text they said they haven't driven in snow with them yet! HellOOOOO.
  11. readyeddy

    readyeddy Member

    May 8, 2012
    Too funny. Now I can't get rid of this visual of a George B. having a conversation with an actual Beaver!
  12. gsbuickman

    gsbuickman Member

    Nov 20, 2016
    Mama Gump said it best when she said "stupid is as stupid does" . I have my go-to sources for reviews and information and basically ignore the rest unless I get a good suggestion from a trusted friend about another source I haven't checked out yet
  13. alientrainwreck

    alientrainwreck Member

    Dec 9, 2014
    eastern oklahoma , Little Dixie
    I tell you what really ruins my day is the dang ups,usps,fedex . I reload and am always having to order something or another, the worst is Brass and Bullets no matter how well the company I buy from packages the products it arrives in a box that looks like it has been ran over with a bulldozer. Maybe off topic a little
  14. Jim Watson

    Jim Watson Member

    Dec 24, 2002
    Florence, Alabama
    Regular gunboards, too.
    Brag pictures and, if built to order or modified, a bill of materials of Major Big Name aftermarket parts.
    But no shots fired.

    And stuff like "I got this neat new gun three months ago but haven't had time to shoot it yet."
  15. Panzerschwein

    Panzerschwein member

    Nov 19, 2011
    I definitely agree. So many stupid 5 star reviews all over the internet on guns where the person says "oh well I haven't shot this gun yet but it's purdy and I like it!". The only opinions from people are ones who've put rounds downrange to test for function and accuracy and shooting characteristics, you know, USEFUL information, not just "aw it's PURDY!!!".
  16. larryh1108

    larryh1108 Member

    Aug 29, 2008
    This fits up there with the posters on boards like these;

    "Kimbers are garbage. I read about a guy who couldn't fire a mag without a jam".
    "Taurus sells junk. I bought a revolver in '84 that sucked. Never again".
    "If you spend more than $500 on a 1911 you overpaid. I never spent more than that and mine all work great".
    "Hi point sells garbage. For that price, it can't be any good."


    They offer "expert" opinions on guns they never owned or shot. It's all rehashed crap they read online and now they are experts.
    You challenge them and they get defensive and nasty. IMO, these are the worst critics out there.
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  17. Dog Soldier

    Dog Soldier member

    Sep 8, 2016
    S.W. Wyoming
    I have never been in a Local Gun Store that didn't have one of these experts. :)
  18. Jason_W

    Jason_W Member

    Mar 4, 2010
    Valley of Stucco and Sadness, CA
    Life does get in the way of fun sometimes.
  19. 460Shooter

    460Shooter Member

    Feb 12, 2011
    When I come across a review as described, I use the handy dandy "x" in the upper right corner of the screen. Solves a lot of problems in my life.
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  20. Mauser lover

    Mauser lover Member

    Jul 13, 2011
    East KY
    Oh my! This is such an AMAZING product! I pulled it out of the box and it is just SOOO cute! I absolutely love it, and anyone who is looking for something remotely similar should get THIS one!

    Please notice that absolutely no useful product information was given, yet a five star review was left. So, yes, this trend drives me nuts. And I'm a millennial! Can I get voted in as an honorary member of generation x? Will that work? "My" generation is setting trends of stupidity that hopefully will be remembered as such for years to come (meaning that hopefully people will realize the stupidity). Which reminds me...

    Just a guy making fun of "us". I don't laugh much at comedians, but I was laughing about how true it is. Maybe I should have been crying...

    So, yeah, a review is to assist the uninitiated with a decision regarding a product. Do you really think it helps to tell me that you haven't shot it?
  21. barnbwt

    barnbwt member

    Aug 14, 2011
    Not if it's a real review. Gushing over a new in box VP9 or Glock without having anything to say about how it shoots or operates is about as annoying as blasting through a mag or two on camera without having anything to say about how well it's built or operates, which is about as annoying as intentionally sabotaging a gun so as to 'prove' something without the slightest pretense of scientific method or controls. None of which are annoying as a half-hour review containing five minutes of any of the above elements and 25 of filler babble (or heavy metal music and slow-mo)

  22. Sheepdog1968

    Sheepdog1968 Member

    Jul 20, 2009
    The beauty and curse of the Internet is that we can find lots of information out there. Much of it unfortunately is poorly done. It's not just firearms. In 2015 I got into woodworking. Went online to look and learn a few things and discovered same issues. As such I don't visit woodworking forums. Mostly I buy books and DVDs. Conten seems a bit better.
  23. Old Dog

    Old Dog Member

    Aug 11, 2004
    Back on Puget Sound
    "Does it drive you nuts when someone leaves a gun review who hasn't fired or cleaned the gun yet?"

    No. Why would one even read a review of a gun written by someone who admits they haven't even fired (or cleaned) the gun?

    I do have trouble reading posts by folks who don't utilize paragraphs ... I digress, though; it seems pretty easy to discern worthwhile commentary on a firearm as opposed to drivel spawned by brand-fanaticism/brand-hatred or lack of experience and/or knowledge period.
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  24. pockets

    pockets Member

    Apr 27, 2010
    in my own little world
    Doesn't bother me in the least...and I'm old. People write what they write, it's not all that big of a deal.

    There are simply too many more important issues on this planet to let internet gun reviews/comments bother me.

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  25. Tirod

    Tirod Member

    May 24, 2008
    SW MO
    What we have with the internet is what you get at that Thanksgiving dinner. Anybody who's there can contribute to the conversation whether they have knowledge, experience, or even logical thought.

    Yes, it does bother to find someone hasn't even cleaned and fired the weapon but proposes to tell us all about their assessment of a firearm. They aren't alone, tho. Turn it around and you see plenty of people who appear to have plenty of knowledge, experience, and even some time in a free fire zone who tell us in no uncertain terms that a particular weapon or tactic will get you killed. Instantly. We hear that when something like "Guns with a safety will confuse you and the other guy will get his shot off first." No, they won't.

    The same issue with either commentator - their point of view is the only one they tolerate. They have gotten as far as they have on the path of gun ownership but have yet to be tripped up by a precept they hold dear but which might not work in that one circumstance. The ones who think what they know is unassailable and they have learned The Truth and Nothing But The Truth, so by golly they are going to tell others what they need to know.

    Sometimes we can be absolutely right about something but completely wrong when we try it. Since there's no way to filter it, I just listen and sort it out myself. It's about free speech - I don't need to have somebody else sift and filter what I want to know. Too often the people who do that get entrenched in a mindset and they determine what is and isn't appropriate. Which leads to the folks who run Facebook, Twitter, and other social media banding together to assign "truthfulness" to posted comments and then delete the ones they think are "fake."

    There ARE gun forums where that takes place - only one view of an issue is allowed and all others are either deleted or the poster banned.

    I'd rather put up with some newbie gushing over his new gun he's never even cleaned. The other side of the coin isn't what we want or need.
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