Does Such A Rifle Exist?

[runswithscissors]

I am looking for a rifle that has the following.

* Bolt action
* UNDER 1 MOA at 100 yds
* Comfortable to shoot all day(nothing with too much recoil)
* Inexpensive ammo(.22, .223, etc)
* Rugged enough for LOTS of rounds
* Under $400

If one under $400 does not exist, how much to have those features. The only thing this gun will be doing is putting holes in paper. Thanks for any info you can give me.

.223 and .308 are cheap enough for me to call "plinking" ammo. I will only be using this rifle to shoot paper and only care for its accuracy out to 100yds. If the rifle is accurate beyond 100 yds. great.
Oh, I forgot to mention I want sub moa at 100 yds with surplus.
Possible?

 

[hivel37]

Maybe you should check out a Rem 700 ADL or a Howa 1500. Both can be had at any gun shop or wally world at the price you are looking for.
Caliber = 223 Rem. Cheap and accurate. Brass laying everywhere.

 

[Domino]

Well at THIS website you can get just that for about $100 dollars cheaper. I would consider a model with the accutrigger if you want to do a lot of serious target shooting.

 

[arcticap]

A .17HMR might fit all of those characteristics and it's one of the most popular new rifle/caliber combinations. The money you would save when buying the rifle will help pay for the increased ammo costs when compared to the other rimfire calibers. But it is said to be affected by the wind a bit.

 

[Phantom Warrior]

+1 on the Remington 700 ADL. I bought one in .308 three years ago and have been very happy with it since. A Savage rifle could also be had for a very reasonable price.

You probably know this, but .22 and any centerfire cartridge (you specifically mentioned .223) are going to be roughly an order of magnitude apart in price and recoil. Fifty rounds of .22LR is a buck or two, while .223 would be more like nine or ten. Plus, a .22 rifle can be had for under $200 easily. Not so for a rifle in .223. Recoil on a .223 wouldn't be painful by any stretch, but a .22 is like an air gun.

The biggest question is how far you want to shoot. Under 100 yards you would be well served by a .22 and have money to spare for your next purchase. Over 100 yards (maybe 200) a .223 would probably be a better idea.

 

[ALASKACAJUN]

I bought a Rem ADL in 22-250 for $350 at a local sporting goods store, it has a very tight group now after I broke in the barrel. doesn't really hurt the shoulder, but the wallet is a different story. BUT, Rem makes the ADL in .223 for the same price... for the price one of the rim-fire rifles would probably be a better choice for you, if all you are gonna do is shoot paper... Clint

 

[jefnvk]

Rem 700 or Savage.

 

[Bear Gulch]

Savage may make some ugly rifles, but they shoot very well.

 

[Cindog]

Add $100 bucks to your price and get yourself a Tikka T3 Lite in .223. Should do everything you want except for the cheap ammo part. As others have said, while .223 is inexpensive as far as center fire rounds go, it is not so cheap when compared to .22 rounds. If you decide on a .22, I can strongly recommend the CZ-452 in any of its varieties.

 

[Johnny Guest]

Savage makes a very nice rifle.

Not as glamorous as some, but all I've seen in the past few years shot quite well. Triggers are often a bit rough, unless you get the Accu Trigger.

See the link above, for Bud's gun shop - - Nice rifle for about $310, BUT please note it is devoid of any kind of sights. You must figure at least an additioned hundred dollars for mounts, rings, and evne a bargain basement scope. One good thing: If you choose the .223, recoil is not a factor, and you don't need a scope that will take huge impacts.

if you are not wed to the idea of a repeater, the New England Arms single shot performs all out of proportion to its cost. Good rifle for under $200, with iron sights. That way, you can be shooting it while saving up for decent optics. Elder Son got one in .22 Hornet and I'm a LOT more impressed than I though I'd be. I personally would have chosen .223, but I must admit, the little Hornet is facinating.

Good luck to you - -
Johnny

 

[runswithscissors]

Thanks, more info if you got it

.223 and .308 are cheap enough for me to call "plinking" ammo. I will only be using this rifle to shoot paper and only care for its accuracy out to 100yds. If the rifle is accurate beyon 100 yds. great.
Oh, I forgot to mention I want sub moa at 100 yds with surplus.
Possible?

 

[Jim K]

Well, "new" is not on the criteria list. If a good used rifle is acceptable, there are plenty around in that price range and in just about any make and caliber you want; a high percentage of modern rifles will shoot to 1 MOA or very close if the ammo is good. Try a gun show or local dealers. On-line auctions could be OK, but I like to see what I am buying.

Jim

 

[Bear Gulch]

Savage in .243 seems to be a good canidate.

 

[Magnuumpwr]

Runswithscissors might I suggest becoming good friends with a pawnbroker in your area. Great deals can be had on guns lost due to non-payment, prices can be just a fraction of the wholesale cost. I purchase a lot of great guns this way. One example of this is a Remington 700BDL 7mm Mag with the wood, monte carlo stock; 22" tapered barrel; leupold mounts; and a variXII 3-9, I paid $220 for it. As for your question, I would stick to the .223, .308, or the 30.06 all three calibers have rifles well within your price range and all have decent mil. surplus ammo for plinking with acceptable accuracy. Any rifle I might suggest that fits me may seem like just a 4X4 block of wood to you, so rifle choice would be soully yours. Like Jim Keenan said most modern rifles all have sub-min. of accuracy along with some of the mil-surp rifles. All this information is just my own opinion and is meant to help you and not to offend you or anyone else in THR. Good luck on your new rifle choice.

 

[The Undertoad]

Since you're only using it for paper targets, may as well opt for a .22 because ammunition is so much cheaper. I'd recommend a CZ-452. Used to own one, and really regret selling it. :banghead:

 

[Raygun]

I'd probably put Savage at the top of the list, too. Specifically, this model. Lots of different caliber choices. The few Savage rifles I've gotten to mess with have all been pleasantly accurate after sighting in. All of them were prior to the AccuTrigger coming out, so I have not yet had the chance to use one with it (other than pulling one through in a local gun shop, and that seemed like a substantial improvement over the old trigger).

 

[Essex County]

I've had experience with about everything mentioned over the years and I feel that the Howa is the sleeper of the bunch. Gave one to my son and almost had regrets...............Essex County

 

[rockstar.esq]

One MOA with any rifle isn't as hard as most people claim. There are surplus M44 rifles that will hang in there with ammo prices under $3.00 per 20 rnds! I frequently wonder why it is that a "Wal-Mart" rifle tends to get damn near the same group size as the "traditional" (more expensive alternatives). The whole 1 MOA thing is totally blown out of proportion. How fast are you shooting? What position are you shooting from? I shoot my hunting rifle offhand for practice because this is the shot I'm most likely to get in the woods. For me it's more like "Minute of Deer". This is why the guys with a hundred year old lever gun continue to put deer on the table despite their complete lack of glass bedding, Mauser extractors, holosights, and tactical cup holders.