this is a fabulous round, reeeallly just great, great for 200 yds or less, does a bit of everything, and if you handload, you can do some varmint bustin with the lite weights, traveling about 3000fps from the muzzle. just superfun, and really a kick that a kid can handle. i have actually started seeing this factory loaded again, by I think Winny, and remington/peters? and the rifle, oh let us not forget that, it is proly worth a ton of money if it is in good shape.