Does this scope exist? (and other stuff)

[MrFox]

I am looking for a scope for my ar-15.

I want an adjustable objective with a low power of 1 or 2, the higher power can be anything.

I would like something with a fairly decent eye relief, and the reticle doesn't matter.

So far the only thing I can come up with would be a NcStar, but a lot of what I read isn't positive. Or, putting a magnifier on a swing mount and get an aimpoint or eotech.

And then, on the complete opposite end of this, how is the vortex strikefire? Does anyone have any current experience with them?


I'm trying to find a balance. 1x magnification for close up and able to be used comfortably for 0-100 yards, and then some zoomy for when its needed.


Thanks.

 

[7.5-Swiss]

Not sure if this is quite what you're interested in, but the Millet DMS-1 is supposed to be a pretty nice variable magnification optic, check out the thread at ar15.com
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=18&t=326527&page=5

It's 1-4x24 I believe.

 

[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

There are lots and lots of scopes that meet that criteria.

What objective lens size do you want, and what's the budget? Without knowing more, I'd get the Nikon Slugmaster 1.65-5x36mm, or one of the many 1-6x40mms out there, from Pentax to Burris to Zeiss to Swarovski, etc.

 

[jlg]

I have an Eotech with a flip away magnifier. I like it, but the eye relief on the magnifier is awefully close...I think about 1-1/2"...I don't like that so much.

 

[jpwilly]

There are a plethora of optics that meet your criteria. But if you want a fast CQB sight you should look at an aimpoint or eotech. If you want something for more precise work out to 300yards get a rifle scope with good optics and lower magnification. The Millet DMS would fit that role nicely.

 

[HorseSoldier]

Off the top of my head there's the Schmidt & Bender Short Dot (x1-4 variable), the Elcan Spectre DR (toggles between x1 and x4 power), the Horus Talon (also x1-4 variable), the Leupold CQ/T (x1-3 variable), IOR/Valdada CRT (x1.1-4 variable), and the previously mentioned Millett DMS-1 (x1-4 variable, if I recall correctly).

(Think those are pretty much in reverse order, price wise, from most to least.)

I would agree with jpwilly that all of those are at a speed disadvantage compared to an EOTech or AimPoint at CQC ranges, but I do like how these sorts of scopes give you most of the speed of a good red dot in close and most of the performance of an ACOG further out.

 

[NickEllis]

The S&B Short Dot is maybe the best of the lot, but mucho $$$$.

I've used the Leopold VX-III in 1.75x6, and absolutely love it.

One of the major benefits of these scopes over the Eotech is the better light gathering capabilities of high quality glass, which will allow you to identify and hit targets much later and at greater distances than with the reflex sites.

 

[Jackal]

Why would you want an adjustable objective on a low power optic???

 

[kwelz]

Avoid NcStar like it is the Plague. Hell I would not be shocked if it carried the Plague. I have seen them with spider Webs inside.

The Vortex Strikefire is actually a really good Budget Optic. I did a review of one over on M4carbine.net a while back. While I would not choose one over an Aimpoint or EoTech, you do get a lot of optic for the money. I have one on my RRA 9mm and another sitting arond I am trying to decide what to do with.

One really nice feature is that it includes a magnifier.

The biggest problem I see is the on/off button being in a place where it can be bumped easily.

 

[rcmodel]

I want an adjustable objective with a low power

AO is not necessary or needed on low power scopes.

Parallax only becomes a real issue, and AO necessary, when you get past 9X or so.

Or, are shooting an Air Rifle at 10 yards.

rc

 

[Walkalong]

The Vortex Strikefire is actually a really good Budget Optic. .......................While I would not choose one over an Aimpoint or EoTech, you do get a lot of optic for the money.

Agreed. I have one on an AR. Not an AImpoint by any means, but nice, and a lot for the money.

 

[Grey Morel]

Iv got a DMS-1. Its a decent scope, its cheap, and it has a true 1X optic.

 

[Dallas Jack]

I've been using a Weaver 1-3x28 on my AR. The 1x is true 1x with no shift in magnification. You can use it with both eyes open in close quarters and lay the reticule over the target as you would a red dot. Parallax has not been a problem. Works for me.
Dallas Jack

 

[MrFox]

Thanks for all the replys. I'm starting to get a better idea for whats out there. I think I might buy a strikefire just to play around with it to figure out what I'd like and want.

The DMS-1 looks like it might be what I'm looking for. How is it?

 

[Grey Morel]

The focus ring is hard to use, and the click adjustments are mushy.

But the optics are clear, the adjustments hold zero, and the no-tool knobs are nice.