Does Tulammo not go by SAAMI specs?

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Hmmm. I have shot an awful lot of Tula in 9mm, 380, 223 and 7.62 but I don't think I have had any more problems with it than any other ammo. I will be on the lookout for excessive FTEs or FTFs when we shoot this weekend.
 
Been shooting alot of Tula, herters and wolf stuff. Seems to be pretty consistent. Nothing out of spec. Used there 9mm, 45, 223 and 308. Cant tell the difference shooting other then the smell. But I can't compare to 7.62x39. Haven't seen any American made 7.62x39 to buy to compare. Thousands of rounds down range with no problems.
 
Anyone shot tula brass max? WW has some in 45 auto and 40sw. Never seen it before
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I bought some from Walmart a few weeks ago in .380 and have shot two of the three boxes. Not problems at all.
 
I've shot lots of surplus Tula ammo through various firearms with no issues. I trust their ammo just fine and still have a bit of it put back.
 
From the test, it seems basically that steel cases are ok but they will wear your barrel out in less than half the time it would take for brass to.
 
I shoot Tula steel-case in local USPSA matches in my AR, and it works fine. And it most certainly is not overpressure by SAAMI standards; by most accounts, it tends to be a little underpowered compared to American brass-case loads. It's dirtier than other brands but not terribly so.
 
colonel kernel From the test, it seems basically that steel cases are ok but they will wear your barrel out in less than half the time it would take for brass to.
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You are confusing cartridge case vs bullet jacket.
 
If I recall the test report, the Tula had, in addition to steel jacketed bullets that wore the bore faster than gilding metal, it also developed lower port pressure than other brands, which affected function.

I guess it would be a lot to ask the guys to scrounge up 10,000 Hornady Steel Match with what I suspect to be imported steel cases but loaded with American powder and bullets.
But it would be an interesting comparison.

Phil Sharpe recommended against shooting USGI .30-06 AP with copper jacket over steel core. He tried it with a barrel that was kind of fading on a target rifle but plenty good for hunting or war. It went to pot in only a few hundred shots.
 
Any decent AK or SKS will shoot steel cased ammo all day long and beg for more.
 
Any decent AK or SKS will shoot steel cased ammo all day long and beg for more
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well according to the tests from lucky gunner it will only do it for half as long before the barrel is rendered unusable
 
colonel kernel said:
well according to the tests from lucky gunner it will only do it for half as long before the barrel is rendered unusable
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He's thinking of steel jacketed bullets and not casings. Almost everyone who makes 7.62x39 makes steel cased ammo. I doubt that would be the case if it wore out guns after a couple hundred rounds.
 
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well according to the tests from lucky gunner it will only do it for half as long before the barrel is rendered unusable
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Keep in mind how the luckgunner guys were shooting. They shot these guns hot. Really stinking hot. They mention their mag-dumping habits several times in the article. An excerpt:

If anything would make that lacquer coating “melt,” it would be the treatment these rifles received during the test. We shot them until they were too hot to hold – hot enough that a chambered round would cook off in ten to fifteen seconds. We also tried leaving rounds chambered before temperatures reached that point. None of this harsh treatment caused extraction problems.
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With those kinds of temperatures, barrel wear is greatly accelerated. Combine with the bimetal bullet jackets, and you have abnormal barrel wear that is far more severe than the kind you would see in the average shooter's rifle.

It is a good testament that if you shoot competitions with your rifle, or plan to get in a very extended gunfight with it, where round counts and temperatures will be running extremely high in small blocks of time, and if barrel life is a concern, you may not want to shoot bimetal jacketed ammo. If you won't be burning your barrel like that, you aren't likely to see that kind of wear, especially if you have a chrome lined bore.
 
I would guess that the vast majority of ARs in the hands of Americans will not see 10k rounds through them in 10 years. Even at pre-panic prices this is $3,000 worth of ammo. I don't have an AR with 10k rounds through it TOTAL but I have no doubt there are many out there that do.
I promise that if I am going to be in an extended gun fight where I might need to shoot this number of rounds that I will buy the Federal ammo.
 
Waywatcher:
Popped/pierced primers on SKS are fairly common-so common that Mr. Murray has a sticky forum at "SKSBoards" about this. Look for "Murray's".

I shipped a Yugo SKS to his business in Bowie Texas after suffering a firing pin blown out of the bolt's rear (the bolt cover caught it).
The ammo is Not considered the primary cause in such SKS malfunctions.

From my memory, Mr. Murray's experienced theory is/was that some SKS chambers were manufactured (not just in certain Yugos) with too little space in the leade for a chambered round, increasing case pressure more than in those with normal specs. He can explain better than I.

His professional work does a little chamber reaming which seems Not to affect accuracy. It cost me about $35 plus shipping. Well worth it!
With hundreds of Ukrainian/Russian rds. in my Yugo since the work at Murray's, perfect operation.
 
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Two year old thread...

BrassMax has had no complaints I know of...

Call Diamond Back.

M
 
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