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Does your indoor range prohibit the collection of brass?

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by gspn, Feb 17, 2012.

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  1. gspn

    gspn Member

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    The indoor range i use prohibits the collection of any brass you didn't bring in with you.

    If you buy "house ammo" then you are supposed to leave it on the deck. They collect it and send it off for re-loading. They then sell it in house...it's cheap and good enough for target shooting.

    Does your range do this?

    I don't have a problem with it...Im just curious as to how many others see the same thing.
     
  2. jcwit

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    If I pay money for it, no matter how much or how little, it belongs to me. After all, I paid for it.
     
  3. Otto

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    Yes they do and it seems to keep the brass whores at bay.
     
  4. Lost Sheep

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    If I went to a range like that it would be revolver, aluminum cased ammo and 22 rimfire only. My brass is mine.

    If they sell me ammo with the price reduced to account for them keeping the brass, that might be satisfactory, but I doubt the math would work out that way.

    I would approach the management and propose that I would use a brass catching dropcloth or something and keep my brass. If not, they would have a problem keeping me as a client.

    I understand that shooters competing over (fighting over whose brass is whose?) brass on the floor is a concern in many places and some collection techniques are unsafe, so the simplicity of a complete ban is appealilng to the management. However, I don't think I would want to shoot next to someone who cannot collect their own brass safely or who would fight over disputed ownership.

    I sympathize with the management's plight. But not so much that I will donate my brass to their money till. Now, if they allow me to deduct the value of my brass from my range fees/membership fees, I will negotiate an accomodation.

    I am not completely unreasonable. Just mostly.

    Lost Sheep
     
  5. Mike 27

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    The range here is a state fish and game range. They let you pick up, and you can go through the buckets and dig it out as well. They provide brooms and squeegee's to retrieve what goes over the firing line and stays in reach with the tools. Looks like we are lucky here.
     
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    I use a catalog case for a range bag. I made a hood of netting that stretches over two hoops attached to the catalog case. It looks kind of like a covered wagon. I shoot from "inside the wagon" with the muzzle extending just outside, and the brass drops into the case.
     
  7. R.W.Dale

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    You guys need to work on your reading retention skills.

    The op clearly states his ranges rules allow him to keep HIS brass with the statement "any brass you didn't bring in with you"

    posted via tapatalk using android.
     
  8. J_McLeod

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    I've only shot at two indoor ranges. Bullseye in Tacoma and The Marksman in Tucson. I don't remember an official policy at either. No one ever bothered me while picking up my brass and everyone else's (with permission).
     
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    OK, OK, sheesh. The range I use sells the brass to a remanufacturer, but allows anyone to pick up ther own brass including that purchased there. They don't really monitor the brass behind the line so you can pick up all you want withing "ejection range of your station as long as other shooters don't mind. A majority of the brass seems to end up in front of the firing line and that is off limits unless you have a Brass Mower with a long handle.
     
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    Most of the indoor ranges I've been to let you field your own brass, but I think they look down on you taking brass that isn't yours.

    Of course, nobody is ever there watching what you pick-up...so it's really hard to say
     
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    I try to get a range station (indoor ) in the right hand corner if its available , so my brass stays in the general area . Outside I usually shoot a revolver so it is not a problem ! Kevin
     
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    The indoor range doesn't have any official policy on it that I've seen. I've always picked my brass up. I'm the only person I see doing it though. Everybody else sweeps up their brass and tosses it in a big bucket.

    The public outdoor range is another matter. Not only do they not care, but people don't even sweep it up. Whenever I'm running low on brass I drive down there after dark on a weekend night and just load up whatever I want. I usually get enough of whatever I'm looking for (typically 9mm luger) to fullfill my needs :).
     
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    The indoor range that I shoot at does not have a posted policy on brass. That being said I do watch the others at the range and ask if they reload. If it's a "NO" I ask if they mind me saving it and offer to clean up after them. I have never had them say no and often they will collect it and hand there brass over before leaving. The range does have buckets for empty brass which are sold to Atlanta Ammo. I don't go thru the buckets unless I loose a few cases to the Hot side of the range. Then I will replace my lost cases from the bucket. I have often considered asking if I could dig thru the buckets, but almost afraid to ask and cause attention to me collecting brass on the floor.
     
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    I have tried to make something like that, with limited success. Can you post (or send me) pictures or dimensions, please?

    Thanks.

    Lost Sheep
     
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    If they do, I don't know it!

    Wish I had a public outdoor range nearby...
     
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    Hey....I represent that remark!!
     
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    Our range's policy is...leave only with the brass you walked in with. Many times you'll have a shooter who does not collect their brass who will offer his brass to the guy next to him that he sees saving it. I stood next to a guy that was firing off box after box of quality ammo...400-500 rounds..of 45acp. He offered...I could not refuse. 95% of the stuff that hits the ground goes in to a bucket and is sorted and sold by our club to support the Junior Shooters program.
     
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    Of the public ranges I have been to both indoors and out, usually you police up your own cases, and if someone leaves stuff behind your allowed to police it up as well.

    This said, one outdoor range feels that anything left behind is theirs if it is on the ground, and if left on one of the benches is policed up by the range master. They in turn either sell it as once fired or sell it as scrap. Their range their rules. I only shoot my rifles there on rare occasion.

    An indoor which I heard about, but haven't been to yet opened recently. It is said to have a raised fiberglass grate floor along the shooting booths, which allows the expended cases to fall through preventing any sort of slipping hazard, explained to me by a friend who went there. Anything which goes through, then belongs to the range, who from what I was told, also uses it and sells reloads at a very reduced price.

    Another indoor range I used to frequent a LOT sold reduced price loads, which you could also return for a $5 deposit for the plastic case and expended brass.

    I am with most who feel if I carry it in I am going to carry it out if it can safely be reached. As for the newer range, I might head over with my revolvers, but won't be making the trip with any of my auto's for sure.
     
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  20. 777TRUTH

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    One indoor range forbids collection of any brass, even the stuff you bring. I never went back.

    Another lets you keep your brass only, he sells the rest as scrap or to reloaders.

    My fav will let youkeep your brass and other shooters if you ask and aren't annoying about it.
     
  21. Mr.Revolverguy

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    Indoor range range 10 minutes away from me

    No reloads - though they sell remanufactured.
    No picking up brass at all period.

    I went in with revolvers once and started sitting my brass on my range table, the range officer walked up reached around me and started pushing it all on the floor 357 and 44mag brass. He says didn't you read the sign all brass stays in the range. The safety form you signs says "NO RANGE BRASS PICKING UP ALLOWED" I went and spoke with the owner and explained he said if I allow you I have to allow everyone. I told him no look I was shooting a revolver and your employee pushed my brass to the floor. He botched showed me his retired Sheriff ID and said it is a loosing argument, I left without my brass and pissed and never been back and tell everyone I see never to go there.
     
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    The indoor range I use allows collection of your brass - whether you brought it in with you or bought it from them. You just aren't supposed to pick up brass from any other lane and can't pick up anything forward of the firing line.
     
  23. dbarnhart

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    I shoot weekly at an indoor range. we're not allowed to collect brass that falls forward of the firing line. All brass behind the firing line is fair game. I always use a brass catcher to make sure I go home with my precious brass.

    On the upside, brass that falls forward of the line is collected and resold to members at a very attractive price.
     
  24. moxie

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    I prefer the term "brass wolf."
     
  25. MikeRussell

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    the local indoor range/gun shop/cop shop tells everyone not to pick up their brass, that they will take care of it. The make sure that there is no aluminum or steel cased ammo, as well as no steel core bullets. They scoop it all up and put it in 5gal buckets then go take it to the recycling plant. I used to shoot there a lot and picked up all my own brass, but they all knew that I was a competitive shooter and reloader...I could take a LITTLE extra and they were fine with that, but not much more than what I came in with. I've thought of going down there to offer to buy some of the brass that they collect...clean & reload the brass I want and sell the brass I don't need/want.
     
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