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Don't want the kool-aid, don't want the kool-aid...ah screw it.

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I myself, much like the OP, never really cared for any of the Glocks I've shot. Years ago, when I was going range to range, renting guns and trying to find what works for me, a Glock was the first gun I reached for. I wasn't, and still am not a marksman, although I've continued to improve. I'd run through a mag on a Glock and be lucky to get 3 or 4 on paper. After shooting some Taurus's, S&W's, Baretta's, Sigs and an XD, I noticed I shot the XD and P226 the best. I ended up with an XD-9 as my first handgun.

Years later, I've since parted with my XD (reluctantly) and acquired a few more pistols as well. I went to a range last year and shot a friends G27. I still despised the unnatural feeling of the grip angle, and the blocky feel of the grip. I did notice, however, that I shot it quite a lot better than the last one I rented. Perhaps the rental was poorly maintained or worn out? Perhaps my skills had improved over time, resulting in the better marksmanship from the Glock? I dunno.

I've recently started considering purchasing a 10mm chambered pistol to add to my collection. There really aren't too many options, but a couple of them are Glocks (G20 & G29). I'm strongly considering a G29 due to its 10mm chambering, relative ease of concealment, and ability to accept mags from a G20. I'd probably acquire a conversion barrel (.40, perhaps 9mm if they offer one) for cheaper practice with the Glock.

I see many replies here that question the OP's intentions to gravitate to a gun that hasn't really agreed with him in the past (much like myself). My suspicion is that with practice and familiarity, I may actually end up loving one of these cumbersome and ugly things. I figure, worst case scenario, I can either keep it as a backpack gun for when i may want the superior ballistics of a 10mm round (for hiking in the woods, etc) or maybe end up selling it for (hopefully not too much of) a loss.

I probably won't acquire one soon, but I'm sure once/if I do, I'll offer my feedback.
 
Get a S&W M&P40 compact. It is the best feeling "plastic" gun I own. The M&P is what Glock wants to be.......but isn't. Lifetime warranty, fully supported chamber and American made.

All that said, I own one Glock.....a G20 becasue I LOVE the 10mm and the Glock is a great platform for it. 15+1 of 10mm is to much fun.
 
I shot a Glock 23 in .40S&W yesterday compared to my Hi Power. I hated it, I actually prefered the horrible magazine disconnect trigger pull on my Hi Power Vs. the Glocks. I shot 10 rounds with it and it was uncomfortable, left a print of the grip in my hand. I'm sure if I shot it all the time I would get used to it but its just not for me. I'll stick with my Hi Power.
 
I shot 10 rounds with it and it was uncomfortable, left a print of the grip in my hand.
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You seriously need to loosen up your grip.
No wonder it was uncomfortable....sounds like you had a "death grip" on it.
 
I don't think it was to tight, actually, first round it was loose and it slammed back in my hand because i'm so use to the grip of my Hi Power. It was also combined with the fact that I don't like .40S&W, to snappy for me.
 
No wonder it was uncomfortable....sounds like you had a "death grip" on it.
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Commonly called a "white knuckler" using Massad Ayoob' terminology. If not, you don't want a serious case of "limp-wristing"; the bane of Glocks do you?
 
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Doesn't take boredom to want to challenge your reservations about something. I want to see if I can like them and as you say, "Let the Journey begin."
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Good for you then...this is a great attitude, just not typical. Have fun breaking out of the box.
 
I'd consider the 27 if it's for carry. I have both and the 27 is a bit easier to conceal and is definately lighter which is why mine gets the nod more than the 23. Get a smooth trigger for it, they come stock on the large frame Glocks. Get better sights for it. Good night sights and/or a set with a larger front sight work well on the small ones. Look at Pearce grip extensions. The PG-39 and PG-2733 work well, give you another round or two and don't make them harder to conceal (at least for me, IWB @ 12:30).
 
I'm honestly just wondering if I can get used to it. I don't like that I'm not proficient with Glock or 1911 grip angles. Also, every time someone mentions the Glock grip angle as a reason for not buying, a Glock owner states how minuscule of an issue this is.
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Yes, you can get used to it in under 500 rounds.

Yes, it is a minuscule issue.

I recently bought my first block, er uh glock. It shoots very, very well once the shooter corrected for it. I still prefer to carry my 1911's, but I do carry the new g19 frequently.

Just buy one, variety is the spice of life.
 
Sold the M&P and working on the other. However, I've got a friend who has a Gen 3 G23 with 300 rounds through it that he will let me borrow. If I decide not to buy, I'll be able to borrow his for a few weeks and see how that goes. Any suggestions on FMJ ammo to use? I'm going to need at least 500 rounds and want opinions from some of you Glockers as I know that ammo is always pointed to when there's a Glock failure. Trying to eliminate this variable as much as possible.
 
Cant go wrong with Speer Lawman. The cost is only a little bit more than bulk ammo and it is bunches better. Every caliber I shot it in has been a pleasure.......
 
I don't understand the whole hate/fanboy thing about glocks. I've never come across a pistol I HATED. I don't even hate hi-points, I just won't ever own one. When I first went into LE I bought a Glock .40, nothing about pistols. It was just priced right. It quickly became apparent I couldn't hit the broadside of a barn with it unless I was standing inside. Range master's 1911, I could group nice and tight with.

Not too long later and I was qual'ing with it without too much trouble and a year later I carried an expert rating with it. I carried the g23 for a few years until the PD started issuing G35L and I switched over to it on duty and used the 23 for conceal. After a decade of a thousand rounds a month in regular shooting + advanced classes + standing on the line with 30 other glocks on range day without either an explosion or a failure has pretty much convinced me of their reliability. The glocks are the only pistols I own that I don't load for, firm believer in no reloads in a glock.

And hand me any pistol (even a hipoint) and it will have shots on target (until the hipoint FTF) starting with the 1st round so I really don't see what the grip angle issue is. Anyway the glock is my go to for carry against 2 legged beasties, I carry others when I'm in the woods though.

Firearms are like boobies, the more I have of different types, the happier I am. :)
 
I would advise you to hold off, especially if you already have doubts. I bought a Glock 30 in .45 auto a few months ago and have not been very impressed with it.

For starters, the mags are impossible to load to full capacity until you work the spring a good bit.

The slide stop on my gun barely protrudes enough to allow sufficient grip to lock the slide back. Releasing it is almost impossible. I am able to do it; most of my friends are not. Usually I practice "slingshotting" the slide but there are some situations when you might need to use a pistol one-handed and in that case I want to be able to release the slide by pressing the slide stop.

My particular gun cycles fine, but absolutely will not eject a live, chambered round if there is a loaded magazine in place. What happens if you get a light strike or a dud primer? Drop the mag, rack the slide, reinsert mag, rack slide? No thanks.

My rear sight broke off. Admittedly, I was trying to rack the gun on a table. The rear sight withstood it only once. Maybe not something it was designed to do, but something I have done many times with the metal sights on my XDM.

I have had a FTRTB in under 300 rounds. An acceptable failure rate? Maybe, but don't buy into the "Glocks are 100% reliable" BS. Yes, most of their guns are generally more reliable than other designs, and some Glocks do run without ever having a single problem, but that doesn't mean they all never fail like some would have you believe.

If you don't mind spending money on metal sights, metal guide rod and proper weight spring, and aftermarket barrel with conventional rifling and a better supported chamber, and stick-on grip tape to deal with that super-slick frame, then the Glock is not a bad gun. By that time, however, you've invested $800 and could have just bought an XDM or a SIG and ended up with a superior quality gun.
 
My particular gun cycles fine, but absolutely will not eject a live, chambered round if there is a loaded magazine in place. What happens if you get a light strike or a dud primer? Drop the mag, rack the slide, reinsert mag, rack slide? No thanks.
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This doesn't sound like a run-of-the-mill GLOCK problem. Were you shooting reloads by any chance? Did you check the OAL of those cartridges? I can't imagine how only your gun would have this problem, or why you wouldn't bother sending it back. This is one of those things GLOCK would absolutely LOVE to see, I'm sure. This is the kind of thing you could post on Youtube and get a hundred thousand hits.
 
If you don't mind spending money on metal sights, metal guide rod and proper weight spring, and aftermarket barrel with conventional rifling and a better supported chamber, and stick-on grip tape to deal with that super-slick frame, then the Glock is not a bad gun. By that time, however, you've invested $800 and could have just bought an XDM or a SIG and ended up with a superior quality gun.
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Metal sights are a good idea. The Metal guide rod is not. The pistol is designed to function proper with a guide rod that flexes a little. Metal will not flex. The tape on the frame is not needed either. It just means the Glock grip shape is not for you. Tape won't fix that. FWIW I have a XD9 that feels like it slips more in my hand. THen again the Glock fits my hand perfect. I shoot both equaly well but the Glock feels soooo much better to me.

In your case the XDm is just better for you. Thats a good thing because they are awesome guns.

I have also seen two Glocks that were as bad as an average Kimber. No matter what they just would not work. It happens. Heck the factory fragile guide rod in my XD just broke. No biggie, I have a solid steel one now. Sometimes things can be done to make a gun better for you. But if it feels bad no amount of tape will fix that.......
 
I would advise you to hold off, especially if you already have doubts. I bought a Glock 30 in .45 auto a few months ago and have not been very impressed with it.

For starters, the mags are impossible to load to full capacity until you work the spring a good bit.

The slide stop on my gun barely protrudes enough to allow sufficient grip to lock the slide back. Releasing it is almost impossible. I am able to do it; most of my friends are not. Usually I practice "slingshotting" the slide but there are some situations when you might need to use a pistol one-handed and in that case I want to be able to release the slide by pressing the slide stop.

My particular gun cycles fine, but absolutely will not eject a live, chambered round if there is a loaded magazine in place. What happens if you get a light strike or a dud primer? Drop the mag, rack the slide, reinsert mag, rack slide? No thanks.

My rear sight broke off. Admittedly, I was trying to rack the gun on a table. The rear sight withstood it only once. Maybe not something it was designed to do, but something I have done many times with the metal sights on my XDM.

I have had a FTRTB in under 300 rounds. An acceptable failure rate? Maybe, but don't buy into the "Glocks are 100% reliable" BS. Yes, most of their guns are generally more reliable than other designs, and some Glocks do run without ever having a single problem, but that doesn't mean they all never fail like some would have you believe.

If you don't mind spending money on metal sights, metal guide rod and proper weight spring, and aftermarket barrel with conventional rifling and a better supported chamber, and stick-on grip tape to deal with that super-slick frame, then the Glock is not a bad gun. By that time, however, you've invested $800 and could have just bought an XDM or a SIG and ended up with a superior quality gun.
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With all do respect, your post shows you have no idea what you're talking about...
Stock Glock sights are almost disposable, they're plastic, most change them before they even load it for the first time.
The slide-release is just fine, it's designed to stay out of the way of a proper shooting grip (unlike a Sig's which is in the way), when a Sig or XDM breaks (which they do WAY more often then Glocks) you're stuck with a paper-weight unless you're a pretty decent armorer with a fair amount of time on your hands or you're sending it back to Sig or Springfield for a few weeks for them to fix it for you, you can teach a toddler to detail-strip a Glock in less than two minutes and repair it on your kitchen table (that's if you ever even need to fix anything, they rarely break).

The mags are tough to load when new 'cause they last like 50,000rds or so, don't be a weakling, shoot it and they break-in in a week or so.
FTRTB is you limp-wresting the gun, light poly guns do that to people with poor grip technique, blame yourself instead of the Glock.

Don't mean to be so harsh or sound like a jerk but this is how Glocks get a bad rap, bad info from guys who don't get them and think stuff like a metal guide rod is somehow better but can't say why.
 
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And with all do respect, I don't like Glocks ether, but to each his own. I just think the machining is poor, and they are ugly.:rolleyes: I guess you would classify them like an old VW bug, ugly but works, you like'em or hate'em.
 
Glocks are just something that nobody's toolbox belongs without. Its not really that big of a decision, I mean its not like spending $1,000-$1500 on an HK or a Sig only to find out you don't like them for whatever reason. Buy it and you may decide that you love it and may want to dub it your new G2G, or maybe you won't like it for whatever reason and in that case sell it or throw it in the ol toolbox. One thing you won't end up disliking it for is function and reliability. All I'm saying is, its not really a situation where you're gonna lose much if at all. But I'm pretty sure if you put 500rds thru it it will grow on you. That's kind of what happenned to me, I never liked the way they looked and then one day I felt like I had this, I don't know, void in my collection and it ended up being because I didn't have a Glock so shortly thereafter I went out and bought one, but I still wasn't sold on them so I sold it, then the void came back, so I bought another one and now I have 3 more on the way and I love them and would never be without a glock. Remember, its only $500 to get to power level 3, and then everyday is bliss......join us :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) .....forever.....drink up
 
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Plus, its always good to keep an open mind and try new things, and intentionally getting into a platform you know you have difficulty with will only improve your skills in a lot of different aspects. I never liked Glocks or AR-type rifles and now I own both and can shoot better with them than any of the other guns I opted for before. BTW, if you have an issue with the finger grooves u may want to opt for a 2nd gen G23
 
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