Hi all, brand new to the High Road and also a new AR15 owner. I was just looking for some advice real quick - just bought a DPMS AP4 and looking for some help. Went out and did the recommended DPMS break in - but each time i cleaned it for the first 100 rounds i didn't see any sign of this cleaning being needed? Any idea why DPMS recommends such a unusual break in cleaning requirement for the first 100 rounds? BTW - the gun was great and didn't have a single issue for the first 500 rounds- also surprisingly accurate.
DPMS AR15 Recomended Break In?
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Shoot all the ammo that you brought to the range and bring it home and clean it. The flood gates will open in 10 minutes on this one for sure. Cleaning a gun every x amount of rounds does absolutely nothing but remove fouling and copper. A fired found may slightly polish or debur a barrel but cleaning will not polish, debur or condition the barrel surface. Some manufacturers have suggested break in because their customers tell them they should and they go along with it. That gun will shoot tight groups right away. BTW I have a Remington R-25 (DPMS dressed in RealTree) and I sighted it in , shot about 1 MOA first day, never got any better or any worse with cleaning.
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And not just on firearms break-in or cleaning either.
steelhog, I'd say welcome to The High Road, and from me at least I'd mean it, but you probably won't be. Welcomed, that is.
Prepare to be deluged by thinly veiled insults about your intelligence for buying a DPMS, and a categorically detailed account of why it's not as good as a Colt, why it won't survive some extended Tactical Range Course, and why you are an inferior specimen of manhood, and a Traitor To The United States.
steelhog, I'd say welcome to The High Road, and from me at least I'd mean it, but you probably won't be. Welcomed, that is.
Prepare to be deluged by thinly veiled insults about your intelligence for buying a DPMS, and a categorically detailed account of why it's not as good as a Colt, why it won't survive some extended Tactical Range Course, and why you are an inferior specimen of manhood, and a Traitor To The United States.
Damon555
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No need to break it in.... I never understood why people waste their time, money and ammo on something that regular shooting will take care of anyway.
If it's about lapping the barrel and getting rid of burrs I'd like for someone to explain to me why just shooting the rifle won't do that anyway....
Oh yeah and enjoy your DPMS, mine has been a fine rifle and is pure hell on prairie dogs.
If it's about lapping the barrel and getting rid of burrs I'd like for someone to explain to me why just shooting the rifle won't do that anyway....
Oh yeah and enjoy your DPMS, mine has been a fine rifle and is pure hell on prairie dogs.
Art Eatman
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As far as this thread is concerned, a DPMS is as good as any other AR ever made. That's non-negotiable. 
Break-in: Lube it. Shoot it. Clean it. Lube it again and put it in the gun safe until the next trip out to shoot.
Take two aspirin, drink lots of water and call me in the morning...
Oh: Welcome to the sand pile. Any number can play.
Break-in: Lube it. Shoot it. Clean it. Lube it again and put it in the gun safe until the next trip out to shoot.
Take two aspirin, drink lots of water and call me in the morning...
Oh: Welcome to the sand pile. Any number can play.
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If you've done 500 rounds I'd say its broken in.
On my Colt I had 2 failures to seat as I charged in the first 100 rounds but I was babying it. I clean mine after every range session/match. I know a lot of other guys that don't.
On my Colt I had 2 failures to seat as I charged in the first 100 rounds but I was babying it. I clean mine after every range session/match. I know a lot of other guys that don't.
Thanks all. Also i had seen the hit or miss reviews of DPMS, but in my local area i have 2 locations to buy an ar-15.
Location A - only sells DPMS but offers a great 30 return policy if you have any issues. (I'm bought a khar from this location about a year ago and had tons of issues in the first 300 rounds - they gave me a full refund and told me that they would deal with the manufacture / great place)
Location B - Sells most brands but as soon as you buy it, your on your own.
Needless to say i went with location A.
Location A - only sells DPMS but offers a great 30 return policy if you have any issues. (I'm bought a khar from this location about a year ago and had tons of issues in the first 300 rounds - they gave me a full refund and told me that they would deal with the manufacture / great place)
Location B - Sells most brands but as soon as you buy it, your on your own.
Needless to say i went with location A.
Captains1911
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For future reference, most gun manufacturers provide excellent customer service and repair services, should there ever be a problem with your firearm. I would never buy from a store with limited options just because they offer a 30 day return period.
Over the years I have used or heard of several different methods of breaking in "as per manufactures recommendations". I have no proof that anything works better than just shooting the rifle or pistol. There is a long thread here at THR about different ways to break in a weapon. http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=610534
There are maybe some pistols and rifles that need a certain amount of rounds shot for mate/polishing of the moving parts; on the other hand, IMO shoot the thing, bring it back and clean it while really inspecting your new pride and joy for tale tail signs of cracks or improper fitting during the manufacturing process. Some semi autos will seat and be more reliable after "X" number of rounds and others will start out being problematic but can be tweaked into a satisfactory weapon (hopefully).
I personally have not seen a weapons accuracy improve after the first ?100? rounds but have seen some function better. I am a hunter so my tolerances are probably not the same as a long range sniper dude but I "usually" hit what I am aiming at....
There are maybe some pistols and rifles that need a certain amount of rounds shot for mate/polishing of the moving parts; on the other hand, IMO shoot the thing, bring it back and clean it while really inspecting your new pride and joy for tale tail signs of cracks or improper fitting during the manufacturing process. Some semi autos will seat and be more reliable after "X" number of rounds and others will start out being problematic but can be tweaked into a satisfactory weapon (hopefully).
I personally have not seen a weapons accuracy improve after the first ?100? rounds but have seen some function better. I am a hunter so my tolerances are probably not the same as a long range sniper dude but I "usually" hit what I am aiming at....
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