Dpms lr 308

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Bushmaster223

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Just picked up my DPMS LR 308 yesterday. I was wanting some advice on accessories such as scopes, collapsible stocks, or anything else you guys would suggest. I want a decent scope, but don't want to pay what I payed for the rifle. Any advice would be appreciated.
 
What are you going to use it for?
I am running a Leupold 6.5-20x40mm scope on my AR-10 with a 20" barrel. Mine is set up for hunting. I have taken game with it out to about 300 yards.
 
Great rifle you got there and they have some serious potential. What barrel is on yours?

I am running a DPMS 762 SASS with a Leupold Mark 4 Mod 3 (10x40mm) scope and an AAC 762SD suppressor. Whatever glass you place on the top of your rifle just be sure to get a quality mount. LaRue is a good choice. ;)

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What's your LR 308 configured as? AP4 or bull barrel etc. As for scopes what will you be doing with the rifle hunting or target shooting and at what ranges?
 
I have a LaRue mount with a SWFA Super Sniper on top of my SASS. I'll upgrade to a better scope at some point, but it definitely gets the job done right now.
 
Bushmaster... your going to go hunting with a scoped 24" DPMS LR308?

If your not just driving up to your tree stand and sitting all day.... You got some big arms and strong legs to be humping that thing around my friend.

:)
 
Javelin, That was definitely one of the things I thought about when I ordered it. I am still not sure if I will use it except from a blind or treestand but I do want to set it up for some long range shooting. Besides I just had to have one you know?
 
I know exactly what you are talking about. That is one reason why I went with an 18" barrel to keep the loaded weight well below 15lbs in my tactical rifle setup (which is still outragious for a hunting rifle). And by the time I put my suppressor on a 24" barrel the thing would be reaching 32" in length :uhoh: As it stands right now my barrel nearing 26" with suppressor and that is almost 2" longer than I would ever want to be.

If I wanted a dedicated hunting 7.62 AR I would probably opt for a 16" standard barrel and leave the plastic grips on there to keep weight to a minimum.

I carried enough heavy stuff while in the military.

;)
 
I actually ordered the 16" barrel first and after waiting 4 1/2 months, the dealer called and said it would be an additional 5-16 months but he could have the 24" in less than a month. I jumped on it and in less than 2 weeks it was in.
 
I started out with a LR-308 slick-side with 24" fluted stainless bull barrel- to be primarily used as a hunting rifle with bench capabilities.

Here's a few things that I can add to this thread -- from having gone through exactly what you are doing:



1.) I'd send your firearm off to ADCO to have the 24" barrel cut down to 18"-20".

I thought like you did about stand hunting with my LR-308. Last December, I got to my deer plot and there was a 10 point in the food plot. As much as I tried, I could NOT get a shot at him while trying to shoot the rifle free-hand. It simply had too much weight at the end of the barrel.

I was about to send mine to ADCO, but I found someone who traded me their 18" Chrome-Moly Bull Barrel LR-308B upper in a straight-even trade. I was amazed at how well the rifle balances with an 18" barrel. I can now shoot it free-hand if I had to.

In my personal opinion, out to 800 yards, 18" is an ideal barrel length for this rifle, and will still let it be a hunting rifle.

2.) No one has mentioned this, but you mentioned a collapsable stock.

If you want a collapsable stock, you have two directions to go:

A.) Either get DPMS or Armalite's .308 SPECIFIC buffer tube, AR-10 buffer spring and the .308 buffer. The .308 has a lot more recoil and needs a heavier buffer and spring.

Armalite's AR-10 buffer spring is good. Use that.

I don't know enough about Armalite's Buffer, however the 308 DPMS buffer isn't that heavy. They just cut one down to fit. I would NOT use it.

At this point, I "believe" that you will still need a stock in the above configuration designed for the 308.

B.) (BEST CHOICE)

Go to AR15.com and order Slash's AR-10 buffer. It is a heavy buffer that allows you to use a standard AR buffer tube on an AR-10 type rifle.

Here is a link to his ad:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=120&t=229073

Now get Armalite's AR-10 buffer sping. You can get them from Slash as well.

Now, you did all this so that you can now get any AR-15 collapsable stock and put it on your LR-308! Yay!


I've seen some nice guns with Magpul stocks, Vltor stocks, LMT stocks, etc.


Now, moving on...


As for optics, you've gotten good advice already. I'd look at brands -- depending on your funds-- like Leupold, Bushnell, Burris, Nikon, Ziess Conquest, Weaver, Trijicon Accupoint, etc.


4.) No one has mentioned triggers. You will likely want to replace the LR-308 trigger. It isn't that good. Problem is that it is hard to find a good trigger in stock anywhere right now. You have a few options-- some will cost you quite a bit, some will not:


A.) Geissele:

The adustable triggers will run you about $280. The SSA will run you about $180. These are the cream of the crop, and worth the money spent. You can find the adjustable triggers in stock in some places, but you won't find a SSA in stock anywhere-- trust me... I've tried.

B.) JP Enterprises:

Great adjustable triggers that will run you about $180. If you get a JP Trigger MAKE SURE you get the heavier springs (the RED SPRING KIT.) JP warns about using the Yellow Spring kit in 308 rifles-- too light.

C.) Timney:

I've read that many have installed these and like them. I've no experience with them, but for the price they go for, I'd just get a Geissele DMR trigger and be done with it.

D.) Rock River 2 Stage Match Trigger:

These have been considered the economical way to fix the AR (or LR) trigger at a reasonable cost. They run about $120. They've had good reviews.

I'll let you know in a week what I think of them. I have one being delievered today for my LR-308. I got tired of looking for a Geissele SSA trigger.

E.) MOST economical:


Bill Springfield at http://www.triggerwork.net/index.html


He has gotten great reviews for his trigger job of your existing trigger. He charges about $35.00


Here's a tread with his happy customers:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=437922


5.) I doubt you'd want a brake on your rifle, but if you do get it threaded and install a break, be aware that your rifle is .920 inches at the muzzle. It is hard to find a brake that lines up and does not dip to a smaller diameter at the brake. I used the JP "cooley' brake because it is .925 inches.

6.) If you swap out your gas block for a low-profile, adjustable, etc., be aware that your bull barrel will need a .936 Gas Block. I have a .936 PRI low-profile gas block on mine.


7.) Forearms.

If you change out your forearm, be aware that:

A.) AR-15 Forearms DO NOT work on LR-308s.
B.) Forearms for the Armalite AR-10 DO NOT work on the LR-308-- thread pitch is different.
C.) The choice of forearms for all 308 AR's is a lot less than 5.56 AR-15s.


Even so...

A.) DPMS makes a cheaper railed forearm for the LR-308.
B.) Daniel Defense makes an EXCELLENT, but kinda expensive forearm for it.
C.) Superior Weapon Systems makes an EXCELLENT, but near the price of DD forearm for it. (Mine is having the SWS E-1 installed now.)
D.) Fulton Armory has a modular forearm that lets you add rails where you want them for a decent price.
E.) JP Enterprises has the VTAC forarm that many LOVE. It is modular and you can add rails where you want them.

Be aware that if you got a railed forearm and you wanted a continious rail from the receiver to the forearm, a High Profile slick side upper WILL NOT line up. It is roughly 1/2 inch higher than the rail. This is why I upgraded mine to the A3 upper.

8.) Grips:

A lot to choose from. These are roughy compatable with the AR-15, with the exception that the grip holds in the safety selector spring, and can be hard to keep in place while installing it. It helps if you drill or dremel a SHALLOW hole or detent to keep the spring in place. I did that on mine.



FYI, if you want to see what a lot of people have done with their LR-308's, take a look at this thread:


http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=121&t=285712


And you can learn a LOT about the LR-308 in this forum:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/forum.html?b=3&f=121



As of now, mine has been upgraded to the A3 Upper receiver, I've had the barrel threaded to 5/8x24, a JP Enterprises Brake installed, and it is at Superior Weapons Systems now getting a new E1 Forearm. It should be back home this week.

I hope all this helps.



-- John
 
I had a Superior Weapons Systems E1 installed on my 20" AR-10 SPR upper and highly recommend SWS.

I ran a fixed A2 stock because the full length spring and rifle buffer run smoother than other options.
 
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