DSA FAL's...or FALs in general...what do you think?

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In my opinion the FAL is one of the finest MBR ever fielded. My was built by Ohio Rapid Fire before Todd Grove passed away and is an excellent build on an Imbel receiver. I like the sights well enough and shoot them very well. I do recommend William's Trigger Specialties, they can reduce the mechanical energy needed to pull the trigger by up to 70% dropping the trigger pull to 4 pounds. They can also do a set trigger in the FAL. Their work carries a lifetime warranty.

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I think the FN Fal is one of the more significant infantry small arms of the 20th century. I plan on adding one to my collection.
 
Accurate enough, powerful enough, light enough, cheap enough, and more than reliable enough. They do everything good but nothing great, the mark of a utility weapon. Almost finished with my Para which will be my multi purpose, jack of all trades rifle which will also qualify as compact enough as well.:)
 
Dobe - that's unfortunate for you, but there's a number of companies that have had an occasional bad batch of bolts. Two that come to mind offhand are Springfield Armory, Inc. and Del-Ton, Inc. Del-Ton has fixed the problem and I'm not aware that SAI has any real ongoing issue there either.

On the FAL, I like the barely-used military surplus parts, hence my earlier statement that I liked my STG-58 better than my SA-58. If you get an STG or an "IMBEL Rifle" from DSA, your bolt and carrier will be military surplus, with whatever quality control that entails. If you want an SA-58 but want a mil surplus bolt, you can easily buy one on Gunbroker and have any competent FAL gunsmith install it and headspace it, a quick and easy job for someone who knows the FAL and has an assortment of the locking shoulders in their shop.

It's worth noting that people are routinely recommending you install a USGI bolt and extractor in an SAI M1A, and I've seen a number of comments about PTR-91 bolts breaking as well (including the one above). And in the AR world, it's also common to replace your OEM bolt with a known quality piece if you're really worried about it, unless you buy from one of the few AR assemblers that uses shot-peened Carpenter 158 mil-spec bolts.

I have no proprietary interest in DSA, but I do think they've done a lot of good for FAL owners, and are the best option going if you want an FAL for shooting rather than collecting. And among current options I think their "IMBEL Rifle" is a best buy, and again is all IMBEL military parts apart from the receiver, furniture, and trigger group.
 
dsa have lately had bad bolts, and right now are doing a big recall on their lowers.. once dsa ran out of surplus parts it seems their stuff went downhill. They couldnt even figure out how to mfg a correct fal magazine that worked.

the best thing around right now are the NOS unfired argentine fal kits at sarco.

dsa right now dont seem to have their act together.
 
I would say it's really up to personal preference. If you're going to be taking a battle rifle hunting, you're really just doing it for fun since there are more practical choices for a hunting rifle, so get whatever you think you would personally enjoy the most, or whatever you think is the coolest. Any of the .30 cal battle rifles would be adequate for hunting most common game. The AR in .223 probably shouldn't be used on anything bigger than deer (even that is illegal in a lot of states), but you can get an upper chambered in a different cartridge more suited to hunting, or you can buy a .308 version like the Armalite AR-10, DPMS LR-308, Rock River Arms LAR-8, Bushmaster ORC, or any of the others out there.

You also mentioned you would be using it as a range gun. If you're talking about plinking and punching paper, once again, get the one you think you would have the most fun with. You might go to some gun shops and hold some examples of all of the above to see what "fits" you best.

Some other considerations... the M1A and M1 Garand have the best iron sights (the best sights ever put on a service rifle, in fact), and the best factory trigger. A flat-top AR is the easiest to mount optics on. The AR is the most accurate, out of the box, and probably the least reliable, and has the potential for being the lightest weight, depending on how it's set up. The G3 has the cheapest mags and the worst iron sights, and it is really reliable. The M1 makes the coolest sound after the last shot, and is probably the heaviest (though you can make an AR heavier if you put a big fat barrel and/or a ton of ninja gear on it). The FAL is probably the most reliable, and it has decent sights and is relatively easy to mount a scope on. They all have their plusses and their minuses, so once again, just get what you think is the coolest.

If money is a big concern, the cheapest one is an M1 Garand from the CMP. They sell them for $500 for a field grade rifle. This is easily the most "bang for your buck" if you ask me. You have to jump through some hoops to buy from the CMP, but it's well worth it. You can build a budget AR for not much more, though.

As for ammo cost, well, the cheapest will be an AR in .223, then .308 (there is a big price jump between those), then the M-1 in .30 '06, and the most expensive will be an AR in a non-military commercial caliber like 6.8 SPC, 6.5 Grendel, or .260 Rem.

I don't know how much shooting experience you have, but you really just need to buy something and start shooting it. I think coming to an Appleseed marksmanship clinic will really help you figure out more what you want, since you will learn proper shooting techniques and have more of an idea of what to look for in a rifle. Appleseed is also a CMP-affiliated organization, so you can get certified to buy through the CMP by just coming to an Appleseed clinic ($70 for a weekend) and buying a membership to the RWVA ($20 for a year), if you're interested in getting one of those $500 Garands. If you're into battle rifles, Appleseed will be a lot of fun because we shoot the Army Qualification Test. Always interesting to see how you stack up. We also teach some Revolutionary War History that you won't hear in any school.

Just some suggestions from a guy who went through the same stuff years ago, as a self-taught shooter... my taste in rifles has changed A LOT over the years, especially since I actually learned proper rifle marksmanship in a systematic way from Appleseed.
 
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