Duct Tape and Plastic Sheeting..but no guns.

[Redlg155]

I was at the bookstore today and while browsing through books I was listening to the television playing in the background. The topic was Govt recommendations (from the Homeland Security Office) for defense against terrorist attacks. Some of the items were duct tape, plastic sheeting, extra food and of course batteries.

Funny..but I don't recall having guns mentioned as a defense against terrorist.

Wouldn't it have been interesting if they did tell Americans to arm themselves?

Good Shooting
Red

 

[4thHorseman]

You'll need guns to protect yourself from the society that has broken down and want what you have. Being food or water, or unspeakable things that they could do to your family members. There will be no cops to respond to your calls for help. Case in point the LA riots or the aftermath of a hurricane. The cops will be home taking care of their families, like they should be.

 

[madkiwi]

The room in our house we plan on retreating to if necessary is the one that has the gunsafe.

I wouldn't want to be the looter that comes to my house. I will have multiple choices on what to give him- some .223, .308, .40 S&W, .357 Sig, .45 ACP, 00 buck or just plain ol' 12 ga slugs.

They don't want you to have guns, it makes it harder for FEMA to relocate the serfs to an internment camp (I'm sorry, I mean shelter) after some kind of occurence.

madkiwi

 

[Blackhawk]

Wouldn't it have been interesting if they did tell Americans to arm themselves?

Yep.

It was interesting when the LA gov said women should get firearms to protect themselves against the serial rapist....

 

[CWL]

Your first line of defense against a terrorist attack is plastic & duct tape. In the likelihood of nuclear (dirty bomb), biological or chemical attack, you will need to seal your house/quarters against intrusion from clouds and gasses. Guns won't help here.

If you need guns, you will likely be defending against fellow Americans who are looting or desparate to get at what you may have stored up.

 

[Buglight]

I heard that news too and instead of buying duct tape and plastic, I just got for myself 2 boxes of HPJs and 2 boxes of FMJs, sorry Mr Govt, as much as I'd like to do what you recommended but I also like to do what I suppose to do too, protecting my family that's it. .

 

[standingbear]

scuse me..

but...being thats its winter(here anyways) and a screaming 12 degrees,dont cha think sealing up the house would not be a good idea?ever hear of carbone monoxide poisoning?if us winterfolk cant use our heaters then duh..freezing aint a good idea either.ill take my chances with whatever may be and deal with it.im not freakin out.buy some guns,support the economy.

 

[bbrins]

I was at one of the local Ace Hardware stores today picking up some plumbing supplies and the place was packed with people buying heaters, plastic, duct tape, propane, etc. I needed one 9 volt battery for my electrical tester, the only batteries left on the rack were those no named brand ones. People are getting paranoid.

 

[Ron L]

This preparedness sounds more like a placebo than anything else. Something to keep people busy and make them think they're DOING something.

Most houses nowadays are so energy efficient, they've had to design ways for fresh air to come in. Windows don't leak, so why the plastic? And the furnace will need fresh air to burn too, it's gotta draw it in from somewhere. I agree with standingbear about carbon monoxide too.

We've discussed this and living just outside of Detroit, we have two considerations. Dearborn and Dearborn Heights are one of the largest Arab communities in the US. Would they actually harm so many of themselves? And with 3 crossings between the US and Canada, would they do anything to possibly hinder travel between the USA and Canada?

I seriously doubt that a group of terrorists are going to mosey down the street in my puny subdivision and target my house. And I'm prepared to protect my family against anybody else the gets stupid about this whole thing.

And I'll say the same thing I said about the whole Y2K thing. I don't need to stockpile as long as I know who else in my neighborhood has stockpiled.

 

[4thHorseman]

My local gun store sold out of 45 shells and almost out of 223 cal.
I bought a few more boxes of 00 Buck shot.
The gun store owner claims, business is the best it has been in years.

 

[TallPine]

Don't you know ?????

This is Bush's new plan to stimulate the economy.

 

[Atticus]

Anyone know of an affordable way to create and maintain positive air pressure in your house?

 

[PageField]

Bush Beans....from the can.......tin

 

[AZTOY]

I have a role of duct tape maybe, i should put it on E-bay

 

[DeltaElite]

I could do something very interesting to a terrorist with duct tape and plastic sheeting.

 

[SteyrAUG]

Ya know, I too listened to the government advocate creating a air tight room. You know, one with no oxygen coming in. Glad to see I'm not the only person to figure out that ain't the best idea in the world.

Wonderful advice the government has for us.

 

[Phil Ca]

Today on the radio it was stated that gun shops in Baghdad were doing big business. Also people were being issued more ration coupons so that they could stock up on food and supplies.

Yes it would be a switch if our very own feddotgov would suggest that our people would obtain firearms.

Remember the scene in the WW2 movie where Russian troops were sent against the Germans with one soldier getting a rifle and 5 rounds of 7.62x54R ammo and the next 4 or 5 getting 5 rounds plus instructions to pick up the rifle of a soldier that was killed??

 

[gryphon]

No, No, NO! You've got it all wrong. The duct tape and the plastic are for disposing of the bodies of those that try to steal your twinkies.

 

[Waitone]

I got several bones to pick with Bush on homeland security. Top of list is the apparent lack of anything approaching what we used to call civil defense. Its almost as if the federales have said "Whatever we do ain't gonna work, so we won't do anything." The duct tape and plastic routine while being actively used in Israel would put out to the taxpaying class in a one-half glutile manner. It strikes me as another one of those CYA initiative the federales engaged in so frequently since 911.

I don't think the ruling class needs to say anything about firearms. Free Americans on their own initiative are acting. I went to a gunshow last weekend and was surprised at the attendence.

 

[BlackArrow]

Whadda you expect with No-guns Ridge in charge?

We have no civil defense, our Gov. will pretty much scrape the bodies or dust off the sidewalk and put in a report after the fact and then pass a new bill to restrict our rights..... I'm sorry but plastic sheeting and duct tape is not going to protect you from Gamma rays that would be given off by a nuclear blast. Misdirection? Economic development? Just plain stupid! If it's nuke, you'd better be below ground, Biohazard??????? Hell by the time they let you know you'd already be exposed and well on your way to the promised land.



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They're not listening, they don't care, they're not the "little people". When I go I think I'll take a few of them with me. Maybe let them know first though. BlackArrow

 

[vulcan]

With the taxes we pay, the gubmit should at least give each taxpayer a gas mask & atropine injectors like Israel.

Ron L,
Not a good idea

Your stockpiled neighbors might have included guns in their preps also

 

[blitzer0101]

I live very close to an acitve arsenal.

I have no defense if it gets hit due to the "unkown" stuff stored there, WINK WINK.

Just pray and sleep like it's any other day.

My apartment is not very defenseable, too many windows and cardboard internal doors. It does sit behind a very large building and is surronded by trees and other larger apartment buildings and houses. Will have to use blackout conditions and keep my head low. It looks deserted from the small view available from the street.

Can't seal it as there are to many air leaks from the crawl space being used as a furnace return duct!



If the nickel drops I'll have to Pray and Spray, "Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition..."

One handgun in each hand and various other "toys" near by.

 

[Redlg155]

by the time they let you know you'd already be exposed and well on your way to the promised land.

I agree. I've spent many a day sucking in some CS gas because I couldn't get my gas mask sealed in time during training. Those days of running around the firing point with a tankers mask dangling from a hose and trying to escape from the gas were not fun at all!

In a real situation we are in big trouble no matter how much duct tape and plastic we have. No one has enough oxygen to await a decontamination crew to clean the area.

Now a threat against conventional weapons and men are a different story. Woe unto the man or men who threaten my family.

Oh..and for stockpiling foods I've heard mostly of freeze dried foods and canned foods being stored. Folks might also want to add a good quality protien powder to their stores, preferably a weight gainer type. Although not a meal, the typical 2lb container contains 39 servings. Not exactly a meal, but a good substitute to help maintain weight and health. Protien powders can also double as a flour substitute for baking.

Good Shooting
RED

 

[Citadel99]

Atticus,

Saw this in a news article today:

One option that a number of scientists said holds promise for protection is the installation in homes and office buildings of air-handling machinery. The High Efficiency Particulate Air, or HEPA, filter pumps filtered air into an area faster than the air can escape through cracks in the walls, creating "overpressure." This pressure imbalance makes it impossible for toxins in the outside air to enter the sealed area.

Marketers of the equipment, which sells for about $1,500 a home, say it could protect against a chemical or biological attack.

One proponent is Richard L. Garwin, a physicist with decades of government experience in technology and security. "The first and most practical defense against biological warfare attack is to maintain 'positive' air pressure of filtered air within buildings," he wrote in the New York Review of Books two years ago.

 

[Bruce H]

I can see the need for plastic and duck tape. It needs to be liberally applied from the neck up to several inside the D.C. beltway. Look at all the purchases Y2K generated. This will be the new survival deal for awhile. We are becoming a nation of complete idiots. The first sign is we elect them.