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These are some dumb newbie questions - Maybe, maybe not.

I am about to finally buy some reloading equipment. I was going to do the Lee Anniversary Kit, but after loading some rounds at a buddy's place this weekend I am thinking I ought to just get a Lee Turret press.

What are the benefits of one over the other and how is a progressive press different?

If I get the Lee Turret press - should I get a 3 hole or a 4 hole press. What is the extra hole for?

Re: Dies - can I use any brand of dies on the Lee Turret press or am I only limited to Lee dies?

Why are Lee presses so much cheaper than the other presses on the market?

Thanks for your patience and assistance
 
Presses--Questions

Not dumb questions. You need to know before you take the plunge. It has been said that there are no dumb questions because if it occurs to you, it is an intelligent question. (Unless you were--grrr--not listening or something.)

And dumb questions, if they exist, are easier to handle than dumb mistakes.

Congrats on deciding you need to reload. You'll never be the same, but you'll like the difference. On to your questions:

The standard advice is almost always to get a single stage press first, and learn the steps on it. There are several advantages: You have only one thing going on at a time to watch. You can get good at one stage before going on to the next. If you should happen to decide you hate handloading and want to get out, you are in for less money, therefore less loss. If you go ga-ga for handloading you might upgrade to a progressive, but you'll always be able to use your single-stage for short runs, and for load development.

A progressive does everything all at once, producing one finished cartridge with each pull of the handle, and advancing the cartridges through the process. Those who shoot A LOT usually get a progressive--competitive pistol shooters for example.

If you get a progressive get at least a 4 holer--the extra hole(s) are useful for powder measure, powder charge checker, etc.

Dies are almost completely interchangeable between machines. Some dies work better with progressives--Dillon's for example, have big tapered openings so the cases go in easier. One machine will use another manufacturer's dies w/o spitting up. The exception is the Dillon Square Deal B press, which uses its own proprietary dies. That's the only one I know of like that.

Lee presses are cheaper because they are made cheaper, so they can be sold cheaper. Now, that may or may not be a disadvantage. A lighter cheaper press can do almost everything the sturdiest can do. But if you are sizing some really tough cases, for example, you'll be glad you have an RCBS Rockchucker or a Lyman Orange Crusher and not the Lee. Or if you crank out hundreds of rounds. (Of course, if you crank out thousands of rounds, you should be on a progressive!)

The standard advice is to go ahead and spend the extra and get the Rock Chucker--it'll outlast you, and your son, and still be in perfect alignment. That's what I'd do were I you, but it's your Mastercard, not mine, so you make the call.

Now, before you jump in to reloading with both feet, may I suggest a purchase first: The ABC's of Reloading published by Krause www.Krause.com which is THE BEST primer IMHO, and will answer questions like these for you. It's also faster than using the I'net one question at a time. They just came out with a new updated edition. Well worth yr. hard-earned $$.

Hope this helps!
 
smokey joe covered everything pretty well, but i'll throw my hat in the circle. along with the abc's of reloading, get the lee manual and the speer #13 manual. both are about 10-12 bucks from midway and read through them. along with the lee one, they have a promotion where you get a free cheapie lil c press. that's how i got started, and yea the press is definatly on the bargain side but it does load good ammo. i use all lee stuff cause im on a budget. you'll find a lot of people either like lee or don't but no one can argue that their low prices bring a lot more people into reloading then any other brand.

lee will get it done, but others will get it done better. its a question of how much your willing to invest. for me, lee offers a great return on my investment, for others, it might not be worth their time to purchase their products.
 
Thanks guys

I picked up the Speer Manual a few months ago. Not sure which verision it is, but it has a cow skull on the cover.

I am most definately on a budget. The press I was on was a Lee Turret and it seemed about fine to me. These days I barely have time to even make it to the range so I can't imagine a day when I would need to be reloading thousands of rounds.
 
All good advice so far. My approach is sorta in between. I use RCBS for the stuff I load a lot and Lee for calibers that I may only load a few hundred rounds a year for. Lee stuff hasn't given me any problems yet.

Something to consider would be to get the Lee press/book deal and if you like reloading upgrade to something heavier when the funds allow. The Lee press is plenty good enough for a dedicated de-capping die station or some such. It would also let you work on two steps at once if you wanted.

I started out with an old Texan turret press that went up in smoke and being able to set up an entire caliber without having to change dies is a time saver. When I started reloading again I bought a Rock Chucker kit and it is excellent quality. Smokey Joe is right that it will be around for my grandkids (and likely their grandkids) if they want it.
 
There is nothing wrong with starting on a progessive press BUT establish good habits form the start like checking for consistent powder levels after charging the case on each one before turing the shell plate. Go slow. Don't let anyone bug you or have other distractions. Read the manuals. Read the manuals.

I started on a Dillon and love it. Not nokcing Lees, but I have known many people who started on Lees. dumping them later and going with a Dillon.
 
Redding turret press on eBay

I agree with the reading about reloading first, as your first investment. After that, I tend to take a different approach. I would rather piece together a bench, than buy something I would probably end up replacing later. You have the first step right, get the books. Now look around and see where the durable products are at the best prices. As an example, on eBay, there is a Redding Model 25 Turret press up for auction. The seller does not know the model number, nor does he/she know much about what they are in possession of. The current price is $51.00, and there are less than two days left in the auction. Is a Redding Model 25 worth $51.00? Ask anyone here with more than 250 postings to their credit. And while I would rather not have to compete against any of y'all for it, I have one on my bench already, and I will probably e-snipe it; if I get it, I get it.
Additionally, there is a lady in NY parting out her dad's reloading bench. He seemed to know his stuff, for its mostly RCBS. Most items so far have gone for about a third of retail (Not RCBS's suggested). I have a number on my watch list.
So what am I saying here? While a Lee kit will definately get you up and running, there may be a better, albiet slower, approach, that brings you out ahead in the long run.
 
I have both. I picked up a Lee Classic single stage for my hi-power rifle loads and a Dillon progressive for my pistol loads. My pistol loads are more for PSD while I demand accuracy from my .300WSM, .45-70, .45-90 and such. Not to mention I like to heavy load my .300WSM and using a single stage gives me more control over every aspect of reloading.

Berek
 
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