Dumbest move ever, but thought it to be safe.

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My truck has been at my mother's for some time. The family went to get it yesterday, but I didn't have the key for it. I had the key to my Blazer (same year) which opens the door, but will not start it.

I had a 1911 in my wife's glove box that I carried to the truck with me. When the truck wouldn't start I put it in the console, and didn't lock the driver door. I was only going about 20 yards, and my wife was right next to it watching the truck. I said to her through the window. Watch my truck. It has my 1911 in the console.

I come out of my mom's house, and the 1911 is gone. GONE! My wife saw nothing. I freaked out. I went in the house. It wasn't there. There was a kid siting next door on a chair, and a man across the street sitting on his porch.
At this time I am furious at myself, my loss, and just plain ignorance thinking my spouse would pay attention to the truck 10' away from her.

Three times I went to the truck and back to the house. Finally, (oh mom lives in a little duplex place of apartments), I yell at the top of my lungs. I am coming door to door to get my pistol, and calling the cops to print my truck.

The guy across the street comes over (without my gun mind you). I say, did you see anyone get in my truck. He said, "I did." I said, "Where is my 45 ACP that was in the console?"
His quick and I would think thought out reply because he had seen me searching for it was, "I came over because my buddy wants to buy the truck. What is you bottom dollar?" I again said, "Where is my 1911?" He said, I opened the truck to look around, and saw the gun sitting there, and was scared to have a loaded gun around in the parking lot. It is at my house. I immediately said, "GET IT NOW!"
He brought it back with some more mess, and I told him that is theft, man. You can't go in my truck just because you are looking to buy it, and especially open the console and take a firearm out of it. Nevertheless I told him I wouldn't sell the truck to him.

My thoughts were he was hoping I'd drive off without checking, and he'd have him a 1911 .45 ACP, and I'd be up a creek. When he heard I was about to print the truck and go door to door I think he fabricated his story.

Lesson learned the hard way. Never trust anyone to watch your belongings for you, and just stash the 1911 in the small of the back if going 20 yards to get a key from your mother. And there are thieves everywhere.
 
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I have a holster for the 1911. I carry a Bersa Thunder 380, but on road trips I put the 1911 in the car with us that is why it wasn't on my body. Generally it just rides between soft books in the car, or in the console of the truck if on a road trip with the family.


And this is a true story. It happened yesterday. Totally flipped me out.
 
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You know what, I have a Son who own's more guns than I can keep track of. He is constantly active with hunting and general shooting activities, but he is about the most irresponsible man I've ever known. He constantly leaves multiple firearms, loaded mind you, just laying in the back seat of his car and truck, and the doors unlocked. To date he has not had any stolen, but to be honest I don't think he would notice the theft of one for quite a while. The other day he came by my place and asked me if I had one of his 870's, cause he couldn't seem to remember where he left it. And honestly, this is a relatively common occurrence, not just firearms either.

As for me, I don't take chances with my firearms and always keep them secured. I have left a gun in my vehicle before, of course, this is something that is sometimes unavoidable. But when I do, I always secure it either in the trunk, or hidden else where out of sight. But unless it's not possible, my firearms are in my possession, certainly not in an unlocked vehicle or visible to those walking by.

GS
 
If I have a handgun in the truck, even if it's in a soft case and out of sight, (like when going to or from the range), I NEVER walk away from the truck unless it's locked with all the windows up. Even then, I don't leave it very long. Plus, there are normally no firearms in the truck unless they are going to the range or hunting or plinking someplace. Had that drilled into me years ago by some older shooters.
 
Does your wife have anything to say about it? Did she notice the guy in the truck?

That's what I was wondering. I live is relatively crime free area and my truck stay's locked 100% of the time. No matter what.

I don't trust anyone enough to leave a firearm in one of my vehicle, hidden or not. Mine stays with me and is laying on the couch right beside me right now. It doesn't leave my side or is more than a foot away from me.
I'm sure you will re-evaluate your own situation after this experience.
 
You go to get a truck without a key to start it.
You open the truck and put your 1911 in the truck.
You leave the truck and gun and go inside your mom’s place.
Within this little apartment complex you yell out the window to your wife (who wasn’t paying attention) and apparently to others who were paying attention: “My 1911 is in the truck.”
Sometime later… DUH!
Why not let the police in on this? The guy probably has priors and maybe even an open warrant.
 
Out of curiosity, what's the age range of this gentleman?
 
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That hick would have a gotten a knuckle sandwich for lunch. Perhaps the saddest fact of life is that there will always be stupid stupid stupid people.
 
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I think I would still let the police in on it. He did in fact steal your firearm. That is the kind of thing that might be nice to have in their records later, should something else turn up missing from that parking lot...
 
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A more important question is?

What was your wife watching if she wasn't watching the truck setting right next to her like you said she was?

It begs belief some guy came across the street, got in the truck, took your gun out of the console, got out of the truck, hoofed it back home.

And she didn't see nothing!

rc
 
Sorry, didn't read the whole thread. Seems like a bunch of poop.
 
Never ever leave your car unlocked, especially if you keep a loaded gun in it.

Some kid could have blown their hear off.

So you had a good cheap lesson.

Lock the truck next time.

Deaf
 
I never leave any vehicle unlocked unless it is locked in my garage. I live 5 miles out in the country with a 1/4 mile long driveway and any vehicle not locked in a building is locked no mater what is or is not in it. Just good common sense.
 
Interesting scenario. What's most interesting is the guy came and gave it back to you...

Maybe he's on some other forum posting about a guy who yells in a public space that he has an expensive gun in his unsupervised, *unlocked* car...and then gets rudely ordered to fetch it from safekeeping to return it. If all you said was, "Watch my truck, it has my 1911 in it" then whoever is listening would have to know that a 1911 is a gun. People that know this are either shooters or historians, and neither of those groups are known for being composed of questionable characters.

Maybe you could've said something along the lines of, "Thanks brother, I really appreciate you trying to keep the place safe. Next time though, just come to me directly and tell me I'm being silly." Being rude or demanding in such a scenario can quickly escalate things into a nasty situation; not many people have been shot for being civil. Also, pulling useful prints off of a probably dirty door-handle or dusty center-console would be really difficult to do as both of those surfaces are probably already covered with fingerprints from you/wifey/mom.

However, I do concede that him opening the console and just taking it without trying to ask anybody if he can check out the truck is really sketchy and it is highly probable that his intentions were less than "high road".
 
whoever is listening would have to know that a 1911 is a gun. People that know this are either shooters or historians, and neither of those groups are known for being composed of questionable characters.

I think you are waaaay off here. A lot of people know that a 1911 is a gun.

Consider how many video games have 1911's in them, for example.

And I' sure plenty of criminals who steal firearms, sell firearms on the black market, straw purchase, etc etc etc, are going to know a 1911 is a firearm.
 
Good point, Warp. I hadn't considered that aspect.

I still think that if you surveyed a random group of people that the majority wouldn't know what a 1911 is.

I'm not kidding, I think I'm going to go around my campus tomorrow and ask fellow college-goers what they think a 1911 is. I'll post results :)
 
I didn't yell to my wife, and she did have two kids in the car which could have been her distraction. I leaned in to say "keep an eye on my truck. I don't have the right key, it is the Blazer's key. I have to go get the S10 key from mom, but the 1911 is in the console. So please keep an eye on the truck while I run and grab the key. I'll be back in less than a minute". Now that less than a minute part might have let her think she didn't need to keep an eye on the truck, and could have been flipping on the iPhone. Who knows. I don't want to pick a fight with my wife about it.

The gun was not visible. It was in a console. You know with a lid. The only time it could have been visible was when I moved it from car to the truck.
In all the guy could have been checking the truck out for his buddy, but that doesn't give him the right to open the door, and check the console. This isn't "poop". It is a true story, and I am very lucky. And a lesson has been learned.

As far as answering the comment about not having a key. If you own a 199x S10 and a 199x Blazer of the same year. The keys are identical, most any of them will open the driver door for sure, and most likely will start the vehicle depending on how wore down the ignition switch is. I just looked at my keys, and thought I had my S10 key as the Blazer is a new addition, and I knew my family member had a key. I wasn't worried about showing up without a key.

I am glad to have my firearm back. He could have been telling the honest truth about wanting to buy the truck, and since I showed up, and he saw me he came to check it out, but taking my belongings is theft. After getting my firearm back I just let it be. I thought what is the use in getting the cops involved at that point? I have my firearm. He isn't getting the truck, and I had a fishing day planned for my four year old's birthday. I was lucky to say the least.

I knew I'd take some flaming here on this, and that doesn't get under my skin. The point I think I was trying to make is that a thief be it an honest thief (LOL) or a dishonest thief (LOL) can be in and out of the area without detection in seconds. Not minutes. It didn't take me 45 seconds to make it to my mom's door and get the key to return. All the time the vehicle was visible from her door although not with my back turned, and my wife, who could have had a massive child disturbance between a 9 year old girl and 4 year old boy on her hands giving the man enough time to slip in and do what he did.
But I will say that the gun was not visible through the glass of the truck. It was put in the console, and the console was shut.
 
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