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e. arthur brown quigley sharps rifle in 45-110

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realmswalker

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Hello,

I have a friend looking to buy a gift for her husband and he wants the quigley down under rifle. I found what looks to be a very nice one from this company.

Does anyone here have one of these rifles from this company, or a rifle that is similar? if you do how is the quality and do you recommend spending the 2000$?

it will be a shooter. The closest authenticity is a must.
 
For the true Quigley rifle you need to talk to the folks at Shiloh Sharps. They are the ones that made the rifle for the movie. What you have from E. Arthur Brown is a Davide Pedersoli knock off. They are not bad, but they are not the real thing. The draw back to Shiloh is the price and the 16+ month wait. But it is the real thing and from what I have heard the fit, finish and overall build of the rifle is the best.
http://www.shilohsharps.com/
They have a forum that has tons of good reloading info for these rifles and that caliber. 45-110 is not something you just buy over the counter. And from what I have read it can be tough to get that perfect load, but once you do they are long range wonders. I too would love to have the Quigley rifle. Good luck.
 
Gus had it right.
The true movie prop Quigley rifle(s) were made by Shiloh.
Go to:
http://www.shilohrifle.com/
Left menu on Rifle Models, then 1874, go down to the next to last picture for the REAL Quigley... complete with the owner's initials in gold, just like MQ on the movie guns.
Delivery time is long and price is high, but quality is great and it is of the closest possible authenticity from the original maker.
You/she could check with Bill Goodman; he keeps many orders in the works with Shiloh and I understand that up until they actually start work on a given gun, he can fudge the order to your specification... for $200 over list price, but delivery in 3 or 4 months.
http://www.shiloh-ballard.com/

C. Sharps makes rifles of equal quality, they both used to be part of the same company but went their separate ways a number of years ago.
http://www.csharpsarms.com/index.php
They keep some rifles in stock and periodically update the list:
http://www.csharpsarms.com/index.php
They say D21 is the Quigley configuration, but it is not quite the same as Shiloh's original. Price is no better, but immediate delivery.

All that said, the Pedersoli is not a bad gun. It is the only Italian copy I have seen at a high level of BPCR competition. It is less expensive, but the slide of the dollar versus the Euro has cut into the price advantage. E. Arthur Brown is not the only source. Check Dixie Gun Works has the Pedersoli Quigley for $1750 in .45-70, .45-90, or .45-120; but not the movie .45-110 for some reason. Probably because they could not get ammo in Italy to proof test the guns with, as required by Italian law.
http://www.dixiegunworks.com/produc...=3524&osCsid=df86a6969f1209ec7cded6161e970d97

Note that while the Shiloh Quigley includes the vernier tang rear and globe front sights, as does the C Sharps D21, most other makes and models do not. Those things are not cheap; the $150 Pedersoli sight is about the bottom of the line.

As Gus says, the movie authentic .45-110 is more demanding to shoot than the more common .45-70. Recoil is heavier. If he is not a proficient reloader, ammunition will be MUCH more expensive. If he is a reloader, and will load black powder, he can manage. The .45-110 will be harder to load satisfactorily with smokeless than .45-70.

As to "closest authenticity", the Quigley style rifle with military patchbox buttstock (left over from 1859 percussion models) and 34" barrel was built up to look impressive when carried by a tall movie actor. It is not what I would prefer for shooting. The narrow buttplate amplifies recoil, the loooong barrel is awkward and subject to "fouling out".
I think a No 1 Sporter with shotgun butt and 30" barrel would be easier to shoot. That is much more often seen at BPCR matches. (Well, except for MY position on the firing line, I shoot a Winchester, now a Browning copy of Winchester.)
 
Dewings gun shop in West Palm Bch. had the origional rifle from the Quigly movie for sale. You could own the rifle, case, cartridge belt, knife, and A signed tape of the movie. For only $130,000.
 
Yup.
NRA raffled off the rifle and the guy who won it turned it over for cash he could use to buy a standard gun and a lot of lead and powder.

The legend is that there were three Quigley movie rifles. One actually shot (with blanks of course) an identical spare because a breakdown on a movie set would cost a lot more than $3000, and a non firing version with aluminum barrel for easy totin' when not being shot.
 
I would not load the big 110 (2 7/8") case with smokeless. In fact I think Shiloh says not to on their site. And Jim is right, it kicks like a 12ga mag from what I am told. Buffalo arms does sell the 45-110 ammo but it ain't cheep by any means. But, if like me that is what he wants then he should get it and learn to shoot it. And if not give it to me ;)
 
The actual movie rifle is in the NRA museum off 66 in Viriginia. Apparently Mangum PI got and donated many of the guns from that movie. The placard notes that movies have extras of each prop, but I'm trusting the NRA over something I read on the net.
 
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