EDC for under $100? (Spyderco vs Benchmade)
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Deltaboy1984
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Get a Needs work and save the money.
ViennaGambit
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Are you kidding me?
How on earth is it any different than buying a pair of slacks online from LL Bean and returning them because they do not fit well, or buying two sizes and returning the one that doesn't fit right??? Or even different than trying on different sizes in a dressing room??? I'm not saying USE the knife.
I can't believe I got an infraction for my original post suggesting buying both the Spyderco and Benchmade and returning the one that is less ergonomic.
This place needs to lighten up.
My opinion, since you asked, is that it's lazy to buy something with the intention of returning it for "free" and you're passing the cost on to other customers, most of whom don't do that.
No problem with trying something on in a dressing room or returning a single wrong-sized item via mail-order where applicable. In the latter case, you made a good faith effort to pick the right size. As for buying two sizes via mail-order and returning one, you are guaranteeing you will return one item. What, do you think that's actually free? You are incurring a cost that you aren't paying for... not my style if I can avoid it.
Are there some instances where this may not apply, sure! I'm not laying out universal guidelines. No doubt there is some retailer that encourages it, and their prices reflect that. But usually a purchase implies intent to keep an item, or at least a greater than 50% likelihood of keeping an item, IMO. If you disagree, fine, but if everyone did what you do, things would be more expensive than they already are.
Kind of like the old example of peeing in the pool. Sure you don't mind your pee, it's everyone else's that you want to avoid. But if everyone thinks peeing in the pool is OK...
No problem with trying something on in a dressing room or returning a single wrong-sized item via mail-order where applicable. In the latter case, you made a good faith effort to pick the right size. As for buying two sizes via mail-order and returning one, you are guaranteeing you will return one item. What, do you think that's actually free? You are incurring a cost that you aren't paying for... not my style if I can avoid it.
Are there some instances where this may not apply, sure! I'm not laying out universal guidelines. No doubt there is some retailer that encourages it, and their prices reflect that. But usually a purchase implies intent to keep an item, or at least a greater than 50% likelihood of keeping an item, IMO. If you disagree, fine, but if everyone did what you do, things would be more expensive than they already are.
Kind of like the old example of peeing in the pool. Sure you don't mind your pee, it's everyone else's that you want to avoid. But if everyone thinks peeing in the pool is OK...
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Rail Driver
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For what it's worth, I've mail ordered things in the past and when they turned out not to be what I wanted, I've returned them (on MY dime). The only time I've ever returned something on the company's dime is when it needed warranty service, was the wrong item, or was defective. If I'm returning something I bought and just don't want or something, not only am I usually stuck returning it on my own dime, but I also have to pay a restocking fee between 5% and 15% - Now I don't know every company's return/refund policy, but the way I figure it, if the decision is that close between two items, and I've got the money, I see nothing wrong with getting both and then (if unused) returning the one that I don't like. If the item gets used for awhile and I decide I don't like it, then I sell it to another individual rather than returning it, but the premise is the same.
I agree that ViannaGambit's post was NOT infraction-worthy, but I'm not a mod and that's not the topic so it is what it is.
I agree that ViannaGambit's post was NOT infraction-worthy, but I'm not a mod and that's not the topic so it is what it is.
GMHAYESUSN
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Sog trident tanto is a nice assist open knife for around 70 bucks kinda hard to beat and i live the locking mechanism for the blade!
Valkman
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I'd just get a full size Griptilian like I did a while back. Absolutely great knife, wouldn't think of replacing it except with another Benchmade.
I don't really want to get into the Amazon return shipping ethics, but just for the information of the thread, Amazon has two categories of returns:
1. Errors in ordering/shipping, defective products, bad product description
2. Wrong size/color, not what you wanted, changed your mind, not needed/wanted
Returns for category 1 are almost always free, there are some exceptions for very large, heavy, fragile, awkward, or items that are very expensive to ship for some reason but this is typically covered by shipping insurance
Returns for category 2 depend. Certain items are specifically selected by Amazon to allow you to "buy and try", most of these are clothing items, but there may be some others. Amazon notes on the product page that the product can be returned for free. For all other items, Amazon will accept the return, but will subtract the cost of shipping from your refund (the schedule for return shipping fees is available here). Amazon will also subtract a percentage of the item's price for certain opened items as well.
I have spoken with Amazon customer service before with a similar question, and I was told that they want to allow users to return non-defective items, and that the intention of the return shipping cost is to allow just that.
While I agree that it is unethical to lie and say that the item is defective just because you want a full refund, I don't feel that it is unethical to be honest with the customer service representative about your reason for returning and accepting a partial refund and paying the return shipping cost.
1. Errors in ordering/shipping, defective products, bad product description
2. Wrong size/color, not what you wanted, changed your mind, not needed/wanted
Returns for category 1 are almost always free, there are some exceptions for very large, heavy, fragile, awkward, or items that are very expensive to ship for some reason but this is typically covered by shipping insurance
Returns for category 2 depend. Certain items are specifically selected by Amazon to allow you to "buy and try", most of these are clothing items, but there may be some others. Amazon notes on the product page that the product can be returned for free. For all other items, Amazon will accept the return, but will subtract the cost of shipping from your refund (the schedule for return shipping fees is available here). Amazon will also subtract a percentage of the item's price for certain opened items as well.
I have spoken with Amazon customer service before with a similar question, and I was told that they want to allow users to return non-defective items, and that the intention of the return shipping cost is to allow just that.
While I agree that it is unethical to lie and say that the item is defective just because you want a full refund, I don't feel that it is unethical to be honest with the customer service representative about your reason for returning and accepting a partial refund and paying the return shipping cost.
Deltaboy1984
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Well I picked up a CR&T Hammond Cruiser and it is a beast.
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Why on earth not?
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