Email from a critic. Comments?

[Graystar]

Thanks for your time, you should be shot

Typical liberal Democrat...they pull “solutions” out of their heads (or other places) and believe in them so much that they quickly accept their own mental masturbations as fact. There’s just no point in answering a person like that.

However, do you really say, "Strong Women Own Guns...Bimbos Don't"??

To suggest that a woman is a bimbo (which itself a derogatory term that really shouldn’t be used) just because she doesn’t own a gun is simply an untenable position. I request that you edit that immediately.

 

[Matt King]

Normally i could respect someone's opinion, even if i don't agree with it, however, when you wish some one to be shot(like he did) you have turned the debate into a death threat,proving you are nothing but a teenager with a mis-guided opinion trying despretly to get attention.

You also argue that women don't need guns to protect themselves, so I suspect you don't hold women in high regard, unlike some of us who wish to protect women form harm the most effecient way, With a gun.

PS: If people don't need guns why do cop's carry them?

Everyone regardless of race, or religion is entitled the right to the saftey and security of their loved ones.

 

[Matt King]

Normally i could respect someone's opinion, even if i don't agree with it, however, when you wish some one to be shot(like he did) you have turned the debate into a death threat,proving you are nothing but a teenager with a mis-guided opinion trying despretly to get attention.

You also argue that women don't need guns to protect themselves, so I suspect you don't hold women in high regard, unlike some of us who wish to protect women form harm the most effecient way, With a gun.

PS: If people don't need guns why do cop's carry them?

Everyone regardless of race, or religion is entitled the right to the saftey and security of their loved ones.

 

[Matt King]

Normally i could respect someone's opinion, even if i don't agree with it, however, when you wish some one to be shot(like he did) you have turned the debate into a death threat,proving you are nothing but a teenager with a mis-guided opinion trying despretly to get attention.

You also argue that women don't need guns to protect themselves, so I suspect you don't hold women in high regard, unlike some of us who wish to protect women form harm the most effecient way, With a gun.

PS: If people don't need guns why do cop's carry them?

Everyone regardless of race, or religion is entitled the right to the saftey and security of their loved ones.

 

[Matt King]

Normally i could respect someone's opinion, even if i don't agree with it, however, when you wish some one to be shot(like he did) you have turned the debate into a death threat,proving you are nothing but a teenager with a mis-guided opinion trying despretly to get attention.

You also argue that women don't need guns to protect themselves, so I suspect you don't hold women in high regard, unlike some of us who wish to protect women form harm the most effecient way, With a gun.

PS: If people don't need guns why do cop's carry them?

Everyone regardless of race, or religion is entitled the right to the saftey and security of their loved ones.

 

[Matt King]

sorry for the excessive posting, my pc messed up.

 

[grimjaw]

Thanks for your time, you should be shot

Argues for the ineffectiveness of firearms as a crime deterrent, but is all for it when it comes to debate?

jmm

 

[rayra]

Nevermind.

 

[mrmeval]

Hi,

Hello

I stumbled upon your website, just wondering why you would post such things on your "Stay Safe" page?

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

You openly mock anti-rape protection, stating in short that simply killing the person/seriously wounding the person is the only way to be truly safe.

I have friends who have been raped and it damaged them in ways hard to explain to those who do not know a rape victim. I'd rather that not happen to anyone else. Most of the non-lethal methods available do not work well. Criminals fear firearms in the hands of the law abiding.

Now this not only is in-correct, but it also breeds inaccurate rumour.

You will need to backup this statement. People in the US use firearms approximately 2 million times a year to stop brutality.

This site could/would make any women without a hand gun feel insecure about being raped, The irony is that the countries where Handguns are illegal are also the ones with the lowest crime and rape numbers through out the world.

You will need to back this up with numbers. Currently police in Britain are giving stern warnings for what would be arrest and a stiff jail sentence in the US.

Why would a woman ever want to feel secure about being raped?

This site uses buss phrases in its small images such as "Police cant be everywhere at once". This is true, its an obvious fact, However the chances of a woman walking alone with no way of running OR defending herself some where the is NO ONE within screaming distance is a rare case.

Depending on others for your protection is unwise. There are several documented cases of assaults happening in public and no one called police. The police do not have a legal obligation to protect you.

Spewing forth bogus phrases such as "Strong Women Own Guns...Bimbos Don't" it gives your site not only NO credibility but shows that the author is probably a man and if not a man a woman whose obviously a fool.

A woman with a gun is EQUAL to a man in the ability to defend her life. Something the size of a pack of playing cards gives her the equality denied her by nature.

"Considering that neither pepper spray nor tasers are adequate for self-defense" this is just a lie, Any qualified city police officer would laugh at you.

Cops carry guns for a reason.

Im going to rap this up by saying, Unless you own a gun shop and are secretly trying to scare people into buying guns from you, Then your wasting your time...

I'm not a gun shop. I have given guns to people in need and will continue to do so as I see fit.

OR
If you were raped and made this site of ignorance and lies to make yourself and others feel better or more uncontrolled of the situation of rape, you have gone about it wrong...

I'd prefer women have control of their bodies and to do this they need equality of force. Guns allow this. Without guns we are at the mercy of the most brutal elements of society. In the society you envision, which is a police state, those brutal elements will become the police.

Thanks for your time, you should be shot
Lee Launay

Murder is the province of criminals. Summary execution is the province of dictators. Performing either for excercizing the rights of free speech and free press is an abomination and they are protected by the right to keep and bear arms.

Molon Labe.

 

[John-Melb]

Why should we be surprised!

Why should we be surprised at the rantings of this anti-gun idiot.

Only the other day on AussieSeek, one of the anti's put forward the arguement that licenced firearm owners and their families should be dragged from their homes and shot.

So Lee, it's not alright to use a gun to defend your life, but acceptable to use a gun to win a debate or prove a point.

You disgust me.

 

[sterling180]

Well there's a few nice words to evaluate him with

Lee Launay-you are a total moron for posting those comments AGAIN, in which you wrote in your post after your initial statement-where you made the following comment:"Thanks for your time, you should be shot".
No punk you should be,because only a complete and utter immature wanker would have wrote what you had written in your post,which was kindly addressed-to all of us shooters. :banghead: You can argue with us,but argue in a civillised fashion-okay.Do what Aussieseek does and argue your points rationally,with evidence if possible.

ANTI-GUN NAZI ALERT,ANTI-GUN NAZI ALERT.Yes thats right,you do sound like a Nazi and don't believe in the freedom of speech-for us shooters,because you believe you view is right and ours is wrong.

Or was your little insult intended for anybody specifically in this forum.You are on our turf matey and you best remember that-meaning you are a viewed as a guest because Oleg directed you to this site.Isn't it ironic that we should be shot-on recommendation by you of course-by the very things you and your deranged-fanatics hate more than anything in your little-world-GUNS.YEEEES GUUUNNS,we own them you hate them-FINE-no problem there, by any means- BUT DON'T IMPOSE YOUR RETARDED VIEWS ON US-BY MAKING IMMATURE VIOLENT SUGGESTIONS THAT WE SHOULD BE SHOT,because we like and own them personally.NO YOU SHOULD BE TWAT-BOY.HAHAHAH, NOW GO AWAY AND GROW UP.I am justified in making those comments about you,because you have recommended extreme violence towards the shooting community,JUST because you don't agree with us.Only a fool would make comments without any evidence.


To all of you guys reading this post-who were wondering what those colourful phrases that I have just used,actually meant.Well lets just say that Lee would understand them and they are a "get-around the rules of this forum",otherwise I would be visited by a moderator.
Thanks.

 

[Malone LaVeigh]

"Strong Women Own Guns...Bimbos Don't"

Well, this could have been put better. Remember, folks, we only need make one slip into indiscreet language to be tarred by the other side. Let's don't give them any more ammunition than necessary. (I know, I'm one to talk...)

 

[Oleg Volk]

However, do you really say, "Strong Women Own Guns...Bimbos Don't"??

To suggest that a woman is a bimbo (which itself a derogatory term that really shouldn’t be used) just because she doesn’t own a gun is simply an untenable position. I request that you edit that immediately.

Semantic analysis: "bimbos do not own guns" is not equal to "women who don't own guns are bimbos".

 

[Zundfolge]

Oleg,
Many many moons ago I was doing battle with antis on another forum and I was linking to images on your site as visual aids in that battle.

You noticed the links on your server logs and emailed me. You said something to the effect of "Don't try to wrestle with a pig, you just get dirty and the pig enjoys it." and then you invited me to TFL (so for those of you paying attention, my presence here is Oleg's fault ).


Anyway, All I can say in response to your quandary is; Don't try to wrestle with a pig, you just get dirty and the pig enjoys it.

 

[Graystar]

Semantic analysis: "bimbos do not own guns" is not equal to "women who don't own guns are bimbos".

Yes, it does. The reason it does is because the term “bimbo” is not an actual classification of a person, such as tall, short, single, married, man or woman. The term “bimbo” is an insult. Some kind of action or behavior is usually required to earn such an insult. In your text, the suggested action is not owning a gun. Therefore, women who do not own guns (action) are bimbos (insult.)

 

[armoredman]

Wonder if the poor deluded fool ever followed Oleg's supplied link, and looked here? Probably not - can't handle the truth. Enjoy your fantasy world, until reality kicks it to pieces. Hope you survive it.

 

[chopinbloc]

The irony is that the countries where Handguns are illegal are also the ones with the lowest crime and rape numbers through out the world.

uh, yeah.

handguns are illegal in basically all of central america which is why it is such a peaceful and enlighted place, right?

even if the quoted statement were true it still wouldn't be relevant because of demographic and cultural differences. what is more germane to the issue at hand is what happens before and after firearm legislation in a given locale. australia, for instance, experienced a dramatic rise in all types of crime after enacting particularly draconian gun laws.

 

[DRZinn]

All apples are fruit. This does not mean that all fruits are apples.

 

[sterling180]

Also from Combat Rock

Should he stay or should he go.Please decide,if he is worth writing to, in the future.

 

[Mannlicher]

Why bother

This unsolicited critique of the site is an obvious attemtp to engage you. Since the person that sent it has their mind made up, and has created their own world of values and beliefs, why respond at all?
Use the 'ignore' button Oleg.

 

[Graystar]

All apples are fruit. This does not mean that all fruits are apples.

"Fruit," in your context, is not an insult. Also, your action of simply existing is far removed from the action at issue, making your example quite dissimilar to the questioned text.

 

[Malone LaVeigh]

Semantic analysis: "bimbos do not own guns" is not equal to "women who don't own guns are bimbos".

Most readers probably don't perform a semantic analysis. That probably escapes a big portion of the people reading it, and even if it didn't, you would have the visceral reaction to what was apparently intended as a slur.

Again, I'm one to talk...

 

[AndyC]

Hope you survive it.

Quite different from what he hoped for us. Gunowners are such nice people

 

[DRZinn]

"Fruit," in your context, is not an insult.

Irrelevant.

We have a set: Fruit/Women who don't own guns.

Then a subset: Apples/Bimbos.

Saying that bimbos are women who don't own guns is semantically the same thing as saying that apples are fruit. It does not mean that all fruits are apples, nor that all women who don't own guns are bimbos.

 

[chopinbloc]

graystar,

doczinn is aluding to a concept called the oehler diagram, if my memory (and spelling) serves. the idea is that two groups - represented by circles - can overlap or one can be completely contained within the other but by being one it doesn't necessarily follow that you are the other. in this case the assertion is that no bimbo has a gun but there are other groups that also do not have guns. just for fun we could say that priests never have guns either (yes, of course that's innacurate). this does not mean that priests are bimbos or vice versa. it can also be said that parts of other groups do not have guns. in this way you can have multiple circles in your diagram with varying relationships to eachother.