It's patently unfair to lump all Muslims together as wanting to kill Americans.
A complete non-sequitur to my post that you quoted. I never did that.
It's patently unfair to lump all Muslims together as wanting to kill Americans.
Looks to me like the gist of the thread is "what to do about Islamic terrorists?"
Do Christians and Muslims worship the same God but by different names? Definitely not! One of the many differences is seen in how these gods instruct their followers to treat those with whom they differ.
Therein lies a problem, acknowledged by many Islamic scholars. The Bible is instructive, but is recognized as the testimony of men about God's plan and is subject to interpretation. The Koran claims to be the literal words of Allah. When people like Osama bin Laden quote from the Koran (even, as you suggest, out of context), the average Muslim must either accept the simple, straightforward meaning of the words or question their validity and, in doing so, deny that they are really the exact words of their god. Being pushed into a corner like that is something that a lot of Muslims appear to be uncomfortable with.those who take the few "make war" verses out of context do so either willingly or because they have not read the whole book.
crazed_ss said:Muslims, Christians, and Jews all believe in the same unseen God.
As I speak, state-sponsored terrorism in Lebanon is tearing the nation apart... You don't see Christians or Jews kidnapping hostages, firing rockets, or beheading innocent civilians.
Mainstream Islam needs to do the same with Hezbollah and other fanatical groups. I tire of the "butt monkeys" that condemn the violent acts with a qualifying "but" and then explain that we need to understand it is our own fault do to our policies (or the Jews fault do to their policies in this case).
The countries of Algeria, Bahrain, Comoros, Djibouti, Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Mauritania, Morocco, Oman, Palestine, Qatar, Saudia Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Tunisia, UAE, and Yemen - from The Arab Convention for the Suppression of Terrorism, adopted in Cairo, April 1998:Can you find even one mainstream Islamic organization that has not condemned all terrorism?
To recap: Arab states are against terrorism; EXCEPT when it is for a 'noble' cause; BUT even then it is not okay when directed against Arab states.Article 2
(a) All cases of struggle by whatever means, including armed struggle, against foreign occupation and aggression for liberation and self-determination, in accordance with the principles of international law, shall not be regarded as an offence. This provision shall not apply to any act prejudicing the territorial integrity of any Arab State.