EOTWAWKI .22LR rifle

[Eightball]

Of course don't forget a wheelbarrow

There's something to think about.

Don't forget.....oh, what was it, a 10.5" suppressed AR15, as well?

 

[KBintheSLC]

EOTWAWKI

Will someone tell me what this acronym means... I see it here all the time and I assume it means something similar to SHTF, but I don't know for sure.

 

[Shooter88]

End Of The World As We Know It - basically an extended version of SHTF; nuclear war, economic collapse leading to the downfall of massive centralized governments, extinction-level asteroid impacts, etc.

SHTF means short periods (days or weeks) of social upheaval, situations like NOLA during hurricane Katrina, where a person needs a means to survive until getting out of the affected area or until help arrives.

EOTWAWKI means unlikely but possible situations where things are very bad over an entire country or even the entire world and aren't getting better for years or decades, and the individuals who survive will need to be completely self-sufficient for the years it takes for civilization to recover.

 

[Vern Humphrey]

My experience with the AR-7 has not been good. It has accuracy and reliability problems, and tends not to hold its zero.

My rule is in survival planning, don't handicap yourself. Pick what you would use if you were going out deliberately trying to survive, not what looks cool.

 

[John828]

SHTF means short periods (days or weeks) of social upheaval, situations like NOLA during hurricane Katrina, where a person needs a means to survive until getting out of the affected area or until help arrives.

EOTWAWKI means unlikely but possible situations where things are very bad over an entire country or even the entire world and aren't getting better for years or decades, and the individuals who survive will need to be completely self-sufficient for the years it takes for civilization to recover.

So could we take lessons from Rwanda, Chad, Haiti, etc.?

 

[popeyespappy]

Majestic Arms has exactly what you are looking for.

http://www.majesticarms.com/id3.html

 

[The Deer Hunter]

The idea would be if TSHTF it would be used to walk the country roads at night to shoot varmit for food.

Lol!

I don't mean to downplay you, I just find that funny. It looks like everyone has answered your inquiry, but why not consider taking larger (and tastier) game?

 

[regal]

In TEOTWAWKI, everyone who is left is either a predator, or potential prey feeling very defensive and twitchy.

I should have title this thread "hobo rifle." EOTWAWKI to me means 1934 Great Depression II. And in the Great Depression it was common for "hobos" to wander the backroads and train tracks with a rifle looking for game. Didn't anyone talk to their grandparents growing up? Anyway with the technology available today I want the best pack rifle should I become a HOBO.

 

[scotlfs]

My choices for SHTF are

3x ruger 10/22 (one scoped for hunting) cheap ammo varmint hunting
1x remington 700 .223 heavier varmint hunting
1x winchester 70 20-06 deer/elk/bear/bison etc hunting.

One of the other things you need to consider for SHTF is fuel and energy. Keep that in mind and learn how to get or make fuel or harvest and store energy.

 

[Funderb]

Stainless savage mkII
I have one in blue that I can hit anything with in a snap.
Very light, shoots amazing.

 

[TexasRifleman]

I don't mean to downplay you, I just find that funny. It looks like everyone has answered your inquiry, but why not consider taking larger (and tastier) game?

Depending on where you live there might not be anything bigger, or shooting it might attract too much attention.

And rabbit and squirrel are quite tasty

Off topic but, if you ever get the chance.....

Tuscan Rabbit

1 lemon
1 tablespoon olive oil
2 cloves garlic, minced
1 teaspoon fresh rosemary or 1/2 teaspoon dried
1/4 teaspoon ground black pepper
2 pounds rabbit pieces


Grate the rind from the lemon. Place in a 9" x 13" baking dish with the juice from the lemon, oil, garlic, rosemary and pepper. Add the rabbit and turn the pieces to coat all sides. Cover and refrigerate for several hours or overnight.

Turn the pieces occasionally. Bake the rabbit uncovered at 400 degrees for about 25 minutes. Turn the pieces frequently and baste with pan juices until the rabbit is tender and the juices run clear when you pierce the meat with a fork. If desired, broil the meat for a few minutes to achieve a light brown color.

 

[targshooter]

Marlin 39A Takedown

I use my Marlin 39A takedown lever action for camping. The rifle separates into two halves for backpacking and is robust and accurate.

 

[Funderb]

Remember to build the shelter with thatching that runs at a steep slant with material that is laid with the natural water drainage path at the gravity end.

 

[woof]

Virtually any .22 is fine for shooting rabbits and squirrels. The OP was suggesting something more tactical, has to fold up and talk about a light and a laser. That coupled with SHTF perhaps gave the wrong idea. So why does a "hobo" .22 have to fold and why is it for night?

 

[Eightball]

So why does a "hobo" .22 have to fold and why is it for night?

Ever seen a "hobo tool"?


As one folds and collapses, so shall the other.

 

[regal]

That coupled with SHTF perhaps gave the wrong idea. So why does a "hobo" .22 have to fold and why is it for night?

You guys really never have talked to a great depression survivor! lol

You want it to be a folder so it hides in a modern hobo sack (back pack.) You want a light because if you ever see a coon or possum during the day it has rabies and you don't want to eat it.

I think a lot of modern survivalists will be hiding in their basements with their 10k rnds of .223 and starve to death waiting on attack zombies.

I am presenting a much more realistic scenario.

 

[Red Tornado]

My first thought was, if it's TEOTWAWKI, you won't have batteries for your lights and lasers and bells and whistles for very long, so ditch the toys.

My second thought was, in that situation, why would you ever put your rifle where it's inaccessible? Forget the backpack, it better be in your hands at all time.

Folding stocks, break down ability, etc. will reduce the reliability of the rifle, which is absolutely first and foremost after TEOTWAWKI.

So, either a solid bolt action, either single shot or repeater or a break open single shot. Max reliability, max lifespan, max usefulness if you're unable to clean it for extended periods.

If you want a semi, the Remington Nylon 66 will probably go longer than any semi-auto firearm made between cleanings. It should run 40 years or longer without a proper cleaning. Just remove the cover and take out the big chunks every few years, and it doesn't use oil to lubricate so the action's good.


To recap,
Remington 510 (or your favorite single shot)
H&R Handi-rifle (might be best 1st choice)
Nylon 66

Disclaimer: My opinions don't consider the pistol options discussed above, which is also a great idea, but the OP asked about rifles so there ya go.
RT

 

[The Deer Hunter]

And rabbit and squirrel are quite tasty

So I have heard.

Keep in mind that rabbit can kill you (always keep your grenades handy...). Rabbits are very high in protein, but have little fat. If you eat rabbit for weeks on end, your body can shut down from lack of fat.

 

[regal]

you won't have batteries for your lights and lasers and bells and whistles for very long, so ditch the toys.

Thats why we have lithium-ion rechargeable batteries now. I few sets and a solar panel will recharge them for a life time.

Also I could be wrong put a think human nature will remain relatively unchanged when the economy falls. People and cultures don't change over night. A hobo walking a RR track with a backpack will garner much less attention than a kacki'ed commando grasping his AR with two hands.

 

[regal]

Rabbits are very high in protein, but have little fat. If you eat rabbit for weeks on end, your body can shut down from lack of fat.

Not if you eat the brains and guts .

 

[mr.trooper]

I like fancy new things as well as the next guy...

But for this type of thing, these AR-7s / 10-22s just dont compare to the old rimfires for QUALITY

Iv got a Stevens Model 1915 falling block that is somewhere between 73 and 93 years old (1935 was the last year of manufacture). It saw hi-volume use IN A SLAUGHTER HOUSE for years, and its still going strong. will your stainless 10/22 be around 90 years from now?

Its got a long forged octagon barel, and with CCI CB shorts its actualy QUIETER than my hi-powered pellet gun; no silencer needed.

Want to put it in a pack? just unscrew the knurled takedown screw beneeth the barel.

Maintinance? throw a bore snake down the barel, whipe the bolt face on your shirt. DONE.

Where can you find one you ask? Dont bother with the new stevens 30G, its not the same gun. internals are completely different, it just looks like a favorite. Even a crapy small town gun show should have at lest 3 of them. Even in great shape, dont pay more than $200 even for an antique.

Watch out though, the guy that sold me mine had shot it so much that the firing pin had worn down to nothing. he didnt bother to tell me and i played hell replacing that part. Its only about $5, but its a huge PITA to swap out.

 

[Vern Humphrey]

I have two of these -- a Stevens Favorite, made in the 1890s, and a Stevens #26 Crackshot made about 1915. Both are nice guns, but the Colt Woodsman (1938) would be my choice in a situation like this.

 

[JFrame]

Without arguing the merits of the proposed scenario, the two choices out of my current inventory would be:

1) a 10/22 with a Butler Creek "Packer" stock and 16" composite barrel; or

2) a T/C Contender with 14" Match .22LR barrel and folding stock (if we're talking EOTWAWKI, we're presuming there are no Feds left to care about this configuration... ).

 

[JImbothefiveth]

EOTWAWKI to me means 1934 Great Depression II.

I still think someone walking down a rural road at night, shooting at stuff, is taking serious chances.

(if we're talking EOTWAWKI, we're presuming there are no Feds left to care about this configuration... ).

He's talking about a bad economy, not nuclear war.

 

[JFrame]

He's talking about a bad economy, not nuclear war.

Okay -- in that case, forget Configuration #2.

I think #1 fits the bill for what the OP laid out, in any case...