Escape from New York: Moving out of gun unfriendly areas

[Bob2222]

If I had to choose between making millions per year in NYC or making 40K living in BFE, I'd take NYC, invest like crazy and retire early - I can put up with some minor inconveniences for that; others might disagree.

If you have enough money -- like Bloomberg, you can have more than one residence -- like Bloomberg, whose "real" home isn't even in the US, it's in Bermuda.



http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/26/nyregion/26bermuda.html?pagewanted=all

There are plenty of excellent reasons to stay away states like New York, but I'd put "taxes" much higher on my list than its awful firearms laws. BTW, I can't think of any states that are tax-friendly that are also 2A unfriendly. Are there any?

People do have more than one home, and one home can be in New York and the other in a more tax-friendly, and gun friendly state.

 

[HOOfan_1]

You don't have to live in NYC to make bank on the stock market. Paul Tudor Jones, one of the most successful hedge fund managers lives in CT

 

[justice06rr]

I didn't vote, because I already live in a relatively gun friendly state since I was a child.

They don't call it the "Gunshine State" for nothin..

Although at a certain point in my college life/20's I wanted to move to NY or CA. Glad I didn't!

 

[Paul7]

Not to nitpick, but the only reason those two states moved, really inched, forward is because the United States Supreme Court made them do it. It certainly was not a result of the will of the people in DC or Illinois that made it happen.

And I predict gunowners in IL will be nitpicked forever. I moved from there to NM in 2007 thank goodness. If you're not allowed to defend yourself you're really not a free person.

 

[Midwest]

Well, it does cost like 5-10grand to move anymore, assuming you aren't losing your shirt on a house. That's a hell of a big donation to...nobody

That 5 or 10 grand can be made up in a year or two in property tax savings!
New Jersey property taxes run $10,000 and up for what is considered a spit of land and a modest house. Elsewhere, that same type of house will run you $1000 to $2500 a year.
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[arizona_cards_11]

Moving from rural IL to Montana next Summer. I'm fortunate enough to have a job that allows me to work remotely. Chicagoland has crushed the rights of the other 99% of the state for too long.

 

[scaatylobo]

Amusing to me

I am amused at those that say they moved from NYS ,and those that never lived here and have STRONG opinions about this state.

I was born here just shy of 67 years ago,lived in THE city and moved as that was just not me.

Moved to Western NYS [ yes that is NOT part of "upstate" and almost 5 HUNDRED miles from NYC ] and been here since.

BUT for the idiotic laws that Cuomo SHOVED through [ and there are MANY ways around that too !! = REALLY ] ,this is a great state to hunt & fish & camp in.

OH and yes we have skiing and ALL other ice and water sports here too.

I am NOT telling anyone to actually move here for retirement,that would be dumb.

After all NO ONE MOVES NORTH to retire,but I like the 4 seasons and I like the fact that those that endure the season changes are a bit hardier.

I still hunt & shoot & go to gun shows & CCW and SASS shoot = etc.

So if your REALLY happy having left here,or have never lived here [ BUT know all about living here = REALLY ? ] please don't tell me what you "know" about where I live !.

rant over.

 

[oneounceload]

Paul Tudor Jones, one of the most successful hedge fund managers lives in CT

And CT is now as gun friendly as NY and NJ

With computer trading as it is, why ANY Wall Street firm stays in NYC is beyond me....Many of the top hedge fund guys have moved to south Florida and work via the Net.....

 

[barnbwt]

Being physically close to the electronic trading hubs has certain (unfair) advantages --that's why . Scaatylobo, the incredulity from folks in ostensibly friendlier areas like me stems from the fact that your cities are now harassing the countryside with increasingly reckless abandon. Rural areas are typically gun-friendly pretty much everywhere, and are generally a bit easier to get along in because there's fewer tyrants breathing down your neck. Again, typically. What puzzles me is what is appealing about putting up with the edicts of the urban areas, while also not getting the convenience of city-life; seems like the worst of both worlds. Perhaps I just perceive the rights infringements on the rural areas out East as worse than they really are, but at some point they will get bad enough to make the question valid if things don't reverse themselves.

TCB

 

[Ed Ames]

Moved to Western NYS [ yes that is NOT part of "upstate" and almost 5 HUNDRED miles from NYC ] and been here since.

Think about the folks in Crescent City, California...OVER 700 miles from Los Angeles, and at least as different from LA as Western NYS is to NYC, and they still have to live with the same lame laws...though not quite as bad as some of yours.

 

[JoelSteinbach]

I left NYC in 1997, lost all of my weapons in a bloody divorce, I love the freedom in TN, no waiting, no fingerprinting, and getting gun friendlier almost every day

 

[Ignition Override]

Sort of, but the gun issue would be icing on the cake with the decision already considered to live in a lower-tax/real estate area.

JoelSteinbach: A buddy on the next block lost about two dozen milsurp rifles while he deployed during his long Army career (many years ago).
Upon return, no wife, but no guns.

 

[Omaha-BeenGlockin]

I couldn't live anywhere where I couldn't live as a full citizen.

 

[scaatylobo]

@ ed ames

That is THE point I was trying to make.

New York City has VERY different laws than does the STATE of NY.

Absurd as it might seem,CCW is totally possible and ALIVE & WELL in the STATE = not in the city [ of NY ] the rest of the state that has fairly large citys [ Rochester,Buffalo,Syracuse,Albany ] do NOT have the idiotic laws that are in effect in NYC.

Most of my friends that are not,nor ever were LEO's all have a CCW permit.

So ,maybe you see my point about NOT wanting to leave = AND not liking but dealing with what has come down from his govenorship .

Laws can be changed,and this looks possible JUST because he shoved it down the throat of the citizens of OUR [ not 'his' ] state.

 

[Sniper66]

I'm mostly happy living in Kansas and would not consider moving. However, based on gun laws, I do give thought to where I am willing to spend vacations and dollars when thinking about traveling. I also consider where I want to spend winters now that I am retired. Spent a month in Florida last winter with no guns and will not go back. Going to the Arizona/New Mexico area this year because of much better shooting opportunities.

 

[tommy.duncan]

I left Maryland and moved to Virginia. The last couple of elections have me ready, and willing, to move again.

 

[Ed Ames]

Laws can be changed,and this looks possible JUST because he shoved it down the throat of the citizens of OUR [ not 'his' ] state.

As an ex-Californian, I'm not being ironic when I say Good luck with that.

My path was from Los Angeles to what I'll, for this discussion, call Red-CA (which both misleading and most of the state by land area) where I realized that the urban population centers controlled the state legislature and therefore messed things up for everyone, to not-CA. Being in Red-CA felt like fredom (and yeah, I was in a place where CCW was in practice shall-issue and I knew people with CCW licenses) but it was still fairly restrictive. Then again, I think Texas is restrictive.

 

[larryh1108]

What is New York's state motto?

The Empire State?

Does that sound like a democracy or a reign?

The state lives up to it's motto.

 

[HOOfan_1]

I left Maryland and moved to Virginia. The last couple of elections have me ready, and willing, to move again.

Yup those areas full of transplants from other states are starting to turn our state blue...Charlottesville, Tidewater and NOVA.

Luckily the legislature has made the state more gun friendly over the last 5 years.
but McAwful and Herring are most likely two of the worst gun right politicians in Virgi ia. Herring has already shown he cares nothing about Virginia's Constitution...he cares about his partisan agenda.

 

[JoelSteinbach]

To correct larryh1108, The New York state motto is EXCELSIOR which means upward.

 

[larryh1108]

Then what would you call "The Empire State" which is on the signs welcoming you to New York state? A slogan?

 

[HOOfan_1]

Nickname

Just like Virginia's motto is sic semper tyrannis
But the nicknames are Old Dominion and Mother of Presidents

 

[improperlyaged]

would definitly move. I have a plan in case Arkansas goes that direction. If Arkansas tomorrow turned anti gun and put the laws of NY or CA I wouldn't be able to move tomorrow night. But I would start to put a little money back, and start looking for a job in a free state. Then when I do move I would still come back to campaign for pro gun candidates and donate to the local pro gun groups. Arkansas is my home and I would hate to leave, but my freedom is more important to me than loyalty to my state.

 

[JoelSteinbach]

George Washington called NY State the seat of the empire in 1790, since it generated much wealth, and many government buildings where located there.

 

[barnbwt]

"Arkansas is my home and I would hate to leave, but my freedom is more important to me than loyalty to my state."
That's actually one of the main reasons why free interstate travel is so heavily guarded in the Constitution; it was fully expected that some states would get too big for their britches, and that repressed citizens could bail if needed.

TCB