Ever had ANY problems with Springfield XD-9 subcomp?

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I was just talking over the phone to a gun range owner who also teaches the CHL course. We started talking about subcompact guns and he was telling me that he wouldn't recommend ANY subcompact pistols. The reason is that he says he's had over 2000 people come through his course and the majority (he didn't seem to be exaggerating) of them with subcompacts have had problems with jams. He was speaking of all subcompacts in general. I asked him if he had any experience with the XD-9 subcompact specifically (because I'm considering buying one) and he said that he had not had any experience with that gun. Several times he strongly recommended that I not buy any subcompacts because he's seen too many jams with them.

He did also throw in the "opinions are like a-holes" disclaimer and say that was just his opinion, so he was nice about it and all but I was just wondering if any of you XD-9 owners have ever had ANY jams whatsoever or any probs with your gun. Even if you've had just one jam let me know about it. Doesn't mean that your gun sucks...I just want to know the different experiences.

thanks!
brad cook

btw - If anyone in central Texas (I'm in Temple) is looking for a CHL instructor this guy does the class pretty much every day, has small classes (he said 8 people is a large class for him) and only charges 60 bucks for the class w/ everything included (fingerprints, photos etc..). That's the cheapest I've seen. PM me if you want his info.
 
350 through mine, great shooter, no problems; but I don't consider ANY firearm broken-in untill 500 to 1000 rounds have gone through it.
 
I would imagine the jams are from not being familiar with the gun. Personally, I think the jams are 'limp wristing' because of the short grip. More practice, that goes away. But, I digress...

Brad, have you looked at the SW99 compact yet? It's offered in 9mm and .40 holding 10+1 rounds each. So far, I've narrowed my compact search to the SW99 in 9mm or the XD-9. (For now anyway)
 
Darrin,

I chose the XD-9 because it has somewhat of a track record. I too was (and still am) considering the mini SW99 in 9mm, it's recently out in this area in .40, but no 9's to be seen yet.

My experience, in the short time I've been shooting and buying guns, is there is significent infant mortality with any newly introduced gun. I've had 3 different new/better/wonder guns each with multitudes of problems- all from big name manufacturers. I'll give the SW99 about a year to work out the production bugs.

Just my $00.02.
 
This same guy I was talking to said that one of his students brought in an SW99 the other day..first one that a student had brought to his class. It was the full-size version and the student wasn't able to finish the class with it. It kept jamming at the load ramp. He said you could still see the machine marks on the ramp because it had not been properly polished.

brad cook
 
Brad, wow, I've shot two .40 SW99s (full size) and both operated fantastic.

Zenon, you make a very valid point! In tune with the original thread, have you had any problems with your XD-9 yet?
 
XDs, jamming? with bad ammo and bad shooter, maybe.
my XD even eats Wolf ammo without a problem.

he said that he had not had any experience with that gun. Several times he strongly recommended that I not buy any subcompacts because he's seen too many jams with them.
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this is a contradictory statement. he never experience with that gun but yet make a generalization claims that all subcompact jams. does he believe that compact guns from HK, Beretta and some 1911 compact jams too? :fire: and you're learning from this guy?
 
Ive not shot a sw99 compact yet but dont suspect many problems. As they arent too far off the full size sw99. Spring tensions might be the only thing they have to tune but the rest of the system is rather proven. Maybe not in the package tho.

As for sw99's Ive put close to 1000 or so rounds though mine so far. Using mostly el cheapo walmart white box winchester. Heck I moved "up" to alabam ammo with nothing but a dirty barrel to complain about it. This gun has operated perfectly since the day I bought it. It doesnt have any of those mytical rattles some talk about but few have seen/heard. in that many rounds ive not had the slightest burp, fte/ftf, any of the sorts. My friend's sw99, the guy who talked me into the gun, has opperated just as cleanily....and his roomates matching gun as well. I know of no less than 3 sw99's ive touched personaly that have a 100% opperational record.....
 
this is a contradictory statement. he never experience with that gun but yet make a generalization claims that all subcompact jams. does he believe that compact guns from HK, Beretta and some 1911 compact jams too? and you're learning from this guy?
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You've distorted the statement a bit. He said that he doesn't recommend subcompacts because of the number of jams he's seen in them. He seems to have noticed a trend of greatly increased problems in subcompact guns. Because of that he has chosen not to buy subcompacts. There is no contradiction in that. No, he hadn't shot the Springfield XD and he didn't really comment on that gun specifically...just on subs in general. I don't see the problem with that given that his experiences are true. I'm sure if he saw the XD-9 come through over and over with no problems then he would come to accept that specific gun.

He hasn't talked me out of buying this gun. Just caused me to consider and create this thread since, as I said, he couldn't comment on this gun in particular. I'm sorry if this guy's opinoin pressed your buttons. Just because he has that opinion doesn't make him a poor CHL teacher. I didn't agree with everything he said either...that's no reason to be insulting. Like I said...he was friendly and acknowledged that it was just his opinion based on his experiences, not gospel truth.

brad cook
 
And throw in some pepper while you are at it.

I really enjoyed our CCW instructor, nice guy, but he didn't like Glocks, so that was proof his view is skewed! :D
 
Darrin, one questionable FTE in 350 rounds due to definite limp wristing; a first time shooter, her first shot trying out the gun. Subsequent shots went fine and her accuracy improved with each shot. I don't consider this one incident applicable to the gun's function monitoring.

All in all, I find it to be a great shooter, managable recoil, very accurate for a 3-inch barrel and the grip safety gives me the extra feeling of safety I don't get from a Glock (as Zenon dons armor and ducks... :eek: ). After try-out shooting a G 26, I am MUCH more accurate with the sub-XD. :D

Time will tell if the XD has longevity, I intend to shoot the hell out of it.
 
Cool. Thanks, SoDFW Jason. That's the kind of info that is useful to hear...many different people shooting the gun and no probs! Sounds good.

Keep it coming ya'll! Good, bad, neutral...whatever!


brad cook
 
Took a Course from Chuck Taylor last weekend. Chuck is currently evaluating the XD and as part of same is teaching with a 4" XD.
He let a couple of us wring it out and all were suitably impressed!
His XD is right at ca. 7K rounds. And, that entire 7K is Ranger SXT
127 gr. +P+. He's had no functional problems with this particular gun
{he has 4 other XD's} plus the thing looks almost as new.
If you know Chuck this means test "from-the-holster", not bench stuff.
He is very positive overall on this pistol and so far his only real
criticism is the tendancy of the slide to rust but does mention that nothing beats Glock's Tenifer treatment, i.e. its finish durability is actualy normal.
 
"ANY" Problem?

Yeah. Just bought mine yesterday and only have a few boxes of ammo through it. No FTF or FTE but since you want "any"...

I've seen one problem (wasn't me shooting at the time). That is with trigger reset between shots. The trigger reset is a bit longish. If you don't let up far enough between shots it will refuse to fire until you do. After ensuring that the slide was seated properly I told the kid to let completely go of the trigger and try to shoot it again. It worked and he did not experience the problem again. Seems it was just a learning/timing issue for him.

I don't forsee it being any problem for me once I've taken it to the range a few times, but I will continue to carry my 45 until I become very well aquainted with my new XD sub-compact. This is the first gun I ever had without a safety! It's a very odd feeling to me after more than 30 years of using guns with safeties. My first impulse was to cock the non-existant hammer :confused: Next thing was to swipe the non-existant safety off :rolleyes: That's all it took and I was busting caps like a pro. Catching on pretty quick. It's not all that bad, still have a leery, impotent feeling after shooting and there safety to engage though. :what:
 
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Hey all, I have about 600-700 rounds through and my XD-9 jammed on the last round and on the last four magazines I fired through in a row. I also had a couple of jams in mid magazine i had to clear. Used Blazer ammo.

I love the gun, the look, etc. but I'm highly considering going back to a glock.

Going to shoot it one more time prior to my decision.

You think the manufacturer would replace it? Any advice?

ricky
 
I've never had to use Springfield's service dept. but from what I've heard they are great. These pistols have a lifetime warranty. Barring any shooter-based issues then there must be something wrong with the gun. It happens to the best of them. I'd send it in and have it looked at.

brad
 
Wow this is an old thread that got brought back to life. I am getting a gun for the wifey this weekend and this is one of the candidates. Hope that the this can be a good choice.
 
Both my 9 and 40 sub have been great. I've got about 6000 rounds thru my Service, and i'm still waiting for a FTF or FTE. But here's an inflammatory comment.........he was probably referring to 1911 based subs. I know everyone on a forum has one that has run 50,000 rounds thru it, but you check the 1911 forums, and a disproportionate number of problems are all subs. My gunsmith, who builds custom 1911s, tried to explain it, but I got lost.
 
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