Ever had your choice of CCW "dissed"by others?

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During a recent discussion of conceled carry weapons I had several shooters proclame loudly that my preffered carry piece was an "antique using an all but obsolete caliber". This came about when a senerio was proposed where there were multiple bad guys and all you had was what you carried. Many carried wonder nines ,fortys,and 357Sigs. My prefered cary piece is a Lightweight Commande in 45cal, with one spare 7rd mag. I told them that:

#1 I do not let myself get in that situation

#2 If I did find myself there that I would RUN

#3 The first BG that caught up to this fatman would recieve 2COM. :what:

#4 The next guy would recieve the same :D

#5 This would continue intill all 15rds are used and/or they got the idea that they really didn't want to catch said fatman. :evil:

Anybody else have these kind of discussions? Most of the wonderkin shooters were talking about shooting it out in place.

Oneshooter
Livin in Texas
 
"antique using an all but obsolete caliber". Lightweight Commande in 45cal, with one spare 7rd mag.
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No, I wouldn't waste my time talking to people that think the 45ACP is an "obsolete caliber".

I can pick ANY caliber to carry and it's the 45ACP. :)
 
Yep.

1911 full size and Commander size
BHP
K Frames

Either obsolete, wrong caliber, antiquated, not enough Mag capacity, didn't pay enough for the firearm, too slow to reload...blah , blah, blah

So I own one plastic gun "finally" which will be my last...a Keltec P-11. I get talked down on that one too. Some folks you are not gonna please no matter what you choose. :)
 
oneshooter, feel free to share one of my favorite quotes from Rosco Benson. It fits with what you were asked.

"Of course the 1911 is an outdated design. It came from an era when weapons were designed to win fights, not to avoid product liability lawsuits. It came from an era where it was the norm to learn how your weapon operated and to practice that operation until it became second nature, not to design the piece to the lowest common denominator. It came from an era in which our country tried to supply its fighting men with the best tools possible, unlike today, when our fighting men and women are issued hardware that was adopted because of international deal-making or the fact that the factory is in some well-connected congressman's district. Yes, beyond any shadow of a doubt, the 1911 IS an outdated design.... and that's exactly what I love about it."

You could also try pointing out to them about how short the time is in a gunfight, and with multiple assailants, tactics, not magazine capacity is what will save the day. If they don't use good tactics, they won't have time to use the 5 extra rounds in their guns.

OTOH, if they are typical armchair commandoes, which your post would lead me to believe. Simple logic like the above may just confuse them. ;)
 
It's always interesting to hear about how you need to be prepared to take on multipe targets and carry nothing less than - wah wha wha !

Too damn many video game senerio's ! My defense weapon is for just that - defense !

I carry 6 in the gun and 6 to spare. That's enough to double tap 6 that would do me harm - how many should I prepare for ? Where am I going to run into that war ? :uhoh:
 
your personal choice, needs no defense to others, as their choice needs no defense. senerios are "what if's".... true reality and "what if's" hardly ever cross Arc-Lite
 
Nope

Because the topic hardly comes up. Concealed means just that in my book, and on those rare occasions non LEOs ask, my answer is always the same.

No Comment.

Personally, I'd never questions anothers choice of CCW. IMHO, ANY gun is better than NO gun when the SHTF.
 
First, I love garrettwc's quote. Great line! I love it! :D

Now, those I do have those discussions with are either close friends who carry or respected gun owners who are informed and intelligent. Personally, the weapon that keeps me the safest is my brain, but then, it could also lead me into trouble. For those times, I carry.

Personally, I like the .45 but I prefer to shoot and carry .40S&W currently. I have a Sig229 with a second 12 rnd mag giving me 25 rnds (10 inches of pre-expanded hydro-shok). I can't even conceive in my mind a situation where I might need more than 15 or so rounds (assuming a tactical reload around mid-first mag) short of total system failure. At that point, we would see it coming and I'd be carrying something else, something longer.

Train well, and do what you train!
 
I think that a lot of the criticism is self-inflicted, not by you personally, but by all of the aforementioned armchair commandos who can't keep their yappers shut about the 1911 being the ultimate "combat" pistol. I consider the 1911 a fine design but it doesn't work for everyone, myself included. Something about the grip just isn't comfortable to me which leads to poor shooting. My carry gun is a USP45, I shoot it well and have 12+1 rounds of RA45TP on tap, I can't fathom a more perfect carry piece. OTOH if I give it to someone else they might not be able to fathom a worse carry piece. Go figure.
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.45 is an antiquated caliber. From back in the day when people though you should only have to shoot someone once. :D :D
 
I too could carry whatever I want... my usual choice? a Smitty 637-2 in .38 spl, with a spare bianchi speed strip...

or a Beretta Mini-Cougar 8040F - this is a short grip gun that only holds an 8 rounder inside the grip... (i do have "extended" 10 rounders for it)

carry what you are comfortable with... and those that do diss mty choice of carry can go pound sand...
 
I met an old gentleman, a veteran of the Second World war. His only sidearm was a 1934 Beretta in .380.

Said the British taught him to use it, then they sent him to Spain, France and other interesting places. He came back.

Geoff
Who figures if it works, don't knock it. :cool:
 
As I've said before no matter what you pack half the folks you know will swear it's the worst POS ever made while the other half swear it's the greatest invention since sliced bread.
My .02:
1-Is it reliable;do it go bang when you pull the trigger?
2-Can you shoot it accurately?
3-Can & do you carry it comfortably?
4-Do you really give a rat's behind what anyone else thinks?
5-Who's butt are you trying to protect?
 
You have to be kidding!

If I were in Texas or you were in MA. I would tell you that they are right, and that you should sell me your LW Commander cheap while you can.

Since I'm not and you're not, I'll tell you what I believe. You have a great rig, one of my favorites. Depending on ammo, your cartridge choice is probably superior to theirs. You've got a great gun that probably fits your hand as well as mine does mine, as shown by the fact that you chose to carry it. The gun is comfortable to shoot and should be very comfortable to carry.

I wouldn't tell someone his personal choices sucked even if I didn't agree with them, but yours are probably better than theirs even for them.

I carry two spare mags, but I hardly consider you unarmed because you carry only one.

BTW, do those guys actually carry, or just talk about it?
 
My understanding of the 3 questions answered by a Good CCW:

1. Do you have it on when you need it?
2. Can you get accurate hits with it?
3. Will those hits convince a bad guy to stop?

I think a lightweight commander (as well as most everything mentioned so far in this thread) answers the three questions.

Adam
 
Umm...yeah. As we all know, the antiquated .45 only has, what, a 96% stop-rate?

I bought a Kimber a few weeks back and was talking to a friend about it at work when some yokel chimed in something to the effect that if I wanted to own a 1911, I might as well go with a single-action revolver, since "nobody uses those anymore, either." I asked what HE would recommend, and his reply was, "get a Glock, man. Those things can fire UNDER WATER!"

Sometimes, I just don't understand people.
 
For me, it's always like this:

"Hey, is that a Glock 23?"
"No, it's a 19."
"9mm, huh?"
"Yep."
"Hope you got lots of spare ammo. You're gonna need it."
"I'll be fine."
"Well, that's a good gun. I got one for my wife, since she's small and can't handle a .40/.45."

or else:

"He, what's that?
"Sig 239."
"Yeah. Don't like Glocks?"
"I do, but this is a very nice gun."
"How many .40's does it hold?"
"I don't know, this is a 9."
"Oh. I'd be careful if I was you. Might not be able to put someone down with just a 9. Might want to upgrade your caliber if you want to make it home safe."

Of course, this is while I'm shooting 1"-2" groups, and they are making nice patterns with the .40 or .45 they are trying to shoot.
 
"get a Glock, man. Those things can fire UNDER WATER!"
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will have to keep that in mind if i get attacked while taking a bath. I think that guy watched U.S. marshals a few times too many.

if the gun fits your hand, has a good natural point, can be hidden well, be in comfort while carrying it and always goes bang. also it either is powerfull enough or you can place enough rounds in the right spots to stop your attacker. I would call that an ideal gun for ccw. and what works for one person may not be the best choice for another. if it is a gun/ cal combo you trust your life to that is all that matters.
 
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