Ever hear this at a gun store?

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I taught my wife too.. Glad no one is listening
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Same here. We did the 4 rules, handling practice, and dry firing at home, though. By the time we got to the range, I kept a close eye on her, but the entirety of my instructions were about shooting technique; she had the safety stuff down cold.

The first 5 magazines contained only a single round. I wanted her reaction to her first shots to be made with an empty gun in her hand. (it was only a .22)

Reason being, about a year ago I brought a buddy shooting indoors with me. He was safe, this wasn't the first time he'd come along. As he emptied a magazine, the last piece of ejecting brass bounced off of lane divider and landed between his glasses (prescription) and his eye. He completely lost muzzle discipline, sweeping me with my 1911 and almost dropping it while attempting to get the hot brass out of his eye. I'm glad it happened on the last round. He claimed he saw the slide locked open before reacting like he did, but I'm not so sure.

Just minor burns to his eyelid. No scar, or actual eye damage.
 
Always good advice to practice with jsut a few rounds. When I practice I still do it with only four rounds in the magazine most of the time rather then the full eight.
 
dont the four rules prevent dry practice?

I taught my gf as well, made sure she was safe before we even thought about loading the 22/45
 
I dry practice but I always check, double check, and just for good measure triple check to make sure the gun isn't loaded.

I figure after three checks to make sure it isn't loaded it's ok to dry practice, even still I wouldn't point it at someone....esspecialy someone out of the blue who doesn't know if it is loaded or not.

And anytime someone hands me a firearm it is ALWAYS checked to make sure it is actually unloaded. Sometimes the person is just an idiot for handing you a loaded firearm when you arn't shooting, sometimes it is just an honest mistake and oversight. Still don't advocate pointing a gun at someone loaded or unloaded but after making completly sure its unloaded there is room for a tad of leeway aside from not pointing it at someone that is always a no no unless you plan on actually shooting them.
 
Like most longtime shooters, I have seen some "odd" stuff at gun stores. The one that really shook me involved a local store that has a small five-lane fifty-foot range in the back. I was doing some initial work with a new 1911 in the far left lane, pretty well focused on my shooting and the pleasure of a new gun, when I heard an explosion. Literally a bang that rocked me off my feet.

The next thing I saw was a man curled up in a ball on the floor, blood pouring (or so it appeared to shocked me) from his stomach. Next to him was an rifle that looked like a Springfield M1A. He then lurched to his feet. I ran to him to check him out, asking if he wanted me to call 911. He waved me away saying, "This happened to me the last time I shot .308 on this range. I would have thought they fixed it."

Yeah, he was hit by a piece of his own round coming off the back stop. Needless to say, I hightailed it out of there before I was hit. I still shudder when I think of this. The fact that he did it twice really gets me.

I later heard he needed to have a piece of bullet jacket surgically removed from his stomach.
 
Probably the sound of a .308 going off in a small enclosed space, right?

I've seen a couple really silly things at my local range. It's an indoor range that lets you rent handguns, and inevitably there's one or two people there who have never fired a gun in their life. I was right next to two guys when they had a jam; next thing I know they're sweeping everyone trying to fix the problem!

I calmly stood over, offered to help them, and then shoved the barrel downrange right before it swept me. Cleared the action, showed them what to do, gave them a few pointers, and then went back to shooting.

I suppose being 6'9" makes people listen.
 
dont the four rules prevent dry practice?
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I think they do, technically. But then again, they also prevent you from cleaning the barrel of your gun, if I'm not mistaken.
 
:banghead: I see/hear them all the time. Some of my favorite memorable examples are:

1) In reference to a shooting range with rental guns:
"Man, they got a 9mm! The most powerful handgun in the world!" :banghead:
2) A guy picks up an AR with a 37mm "flare launcher"
"This would be bada$$ deer hunting" (He didn't laugh)
Why!?
 
I went into a place with my SW 5906. 18 years old. Just bought it, didn't know much, wanted to know how to clean it, and to buy cleaning supplies. In FL, it is completely legal for me to own and carry this thing in my car.

WELLLLLLLLLLL, according to the guy behind the counter, if I got caught with that "I was going to jail." I "found a loophole." He then demanded to know where my dad was at. Hahahahaha. I was like what the frick? He wanted to talk to my dad and find out why I wanted something like this. Why I needed it, what I was doing with it. Then, he asked how I found out about "the loophole." I told him another gun shop (told him the name), told me they couldn't sell me a handgun, but I was able to legally purchase one from a friend, or whoever, as long as they weren't a dealer. He goes "I'm calling the ATF tonight to inform them of (name of gun shop) is aiding in arming minors. Minors? I'm 18, and it's fricking legal.

My 34 year old brother was with me at the time. We left, and laughed our butts off at how bad this guy got his panties in a bunch.

He did show me how to clean it and oil it though. :)
 
Some guys are just morons and idiots.

Bad enough the idiots and washington want to keep me, an adult in every legal sense of the word for all other matters but one, from buying a handgun. It is perfectly legal for me to own a handgun, the only thing illegal for me is to buy it. Thats all bad and stupid enough I don't need some uptight guy behind the counter busting my chops over it.

Im 20 and was looking at handguns a few weeks ago at a gunshop/range. Was in there earlier that day with my mother to buy some ammo and went back later cause bordom got the best of me. He knew I was under 21 but after the ammo I had bought earlier was used up sold me more (no I wont name the range here) and had no problem with me looking at handguns after I had finished. Im willing to bet he would have drawn the line at renting me one but didn't have a problem letting me look or (probably cause I had been in earlier to buy some with a parent) selling me some extra ammo.

He was a bit laxed and I wouldn't have counted him not selling me more ammo as uptight, BS law or not I don't expect him to break it and risk his neck for me, but bringing a gun in to by supplies and learn how to clean it ranks up there in panties in a bunch land.
 
Ive seen some...pretty stupid things at the 2 gun shows ive been too.

Foremost among them is a wannabe gangster guy holding an AK and pointing everywhere, then ejecting the mag so that it falls on the floor :D
 
Foremost among them is a wannabe gangster guy holding an AK and pointing everywhere, then ejecting the mag so that it falls on the floor
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That's hilarious. I can just picture it in my head... :rolleyes:

<edit: I'm not being sarcastic. That really is funny>
 
I was at a store a few weeks ago and overheard/saw some of the interaction between a clerk and a customer who was picking up a rifle. After aiming at just about everything in sight, the customer actually asked the clerk to load the rifle for him before he left. Thankfully, the clerk told him no way.
 
I saw one the other day that left me wondering.

Old guy in a WWII ball cap looking for a soft case for his bring back Luger. Carried it into the store in a paper bag.

The store owner was examing the pistol when the guy started telling him how he found it in a cave on Iwo Jima.

I will have to ask the gun store owner next time I see him whether this weapon was a commercial Luger or military production. I can see a Japanese officer buying a commercial Lugerbefore the war, but I doubt that the Nazis were supplying Japan with Wehrmacht weapons. (But then again, I have been know to be wrong.)

There was just something about the story that didn't ring true.
 
No, I have never heard any stuiped comments at gun stores or gun shows. Then again I have only been to two Gun shows in my life. A year ago at the local rifle range, a young local police officer who was practicing at 50 yrds with his issued AR-15 sniper rifle. When he was leaving, the range he struck up a friendly conversation with me, since I was the only other person there, during the conversation he looked over at my 70 Yr old CZ-24 7.92mm Mauser rifle, and then made a snide comment to me that if I wanted I could kill people at 1,000 yds with my super powerful sniper rifle, with iron sights:rolleyes:. I was dumb founded by his comment, for its total lack of though and it was insult he could think I was capable of such things. I tried to make a joke out of it, but decided against since he might take offense and hassel me for my permit, and to see if I was using the mandatory gunlocks. Which would have been fine, since I follow the letter of the law. I just don't like hassels.
 
That's one thing about the store I work in--the "commando(e?)s" are actually SWAT/DEA/other LEOs. And, to top it off, they actually ask my opinion on some stuff. :)

Another great way to tell a poseur from a true veteran is to hand them an M1, M14/M1A, or AR-15. If they're a poseur, they usually start blathering well-known facts about it (but usually asking what the caliber is :uhoh: ), but... if they truly have "seen the elephant," so to speak, they decline almost immediately with the words "I know what that is." Either that or they inspect the thing, pointing out little differentiations or the like, but not really saying too much at all.
 
this isnt really a stupid comment, but this thread reminded me of a time i wen my mom took me to a gun store.
i was at the counter talkin to the clerk and he was showing me the new AKs he got in. we were talkin for a while and then my mom said "what do you guys with those?":eek:
the clerk looked at her like she was from another planet
a fond memory i will always have of my dear mother;)
 
Dionysusigma said:
That's one thing about the store I work in--the "commando(e?)s" are actually SWAT/DEA/other LEOs. And, to top it off, they actually ask my opinion on some stuff. :)

Another great way to tell a poseur from a true veteran is to hand them an M1, M14/M1A, or AR-15. If they're a poseur, they usually start blathering well-known facts about it (but usually asking what the caliber is :uhoh: ), but... if they truly have "seen the elephant," so to speak, they decline almost immediately with the words "I know what that is." Either that or they inspect the thing, pointing out little differentiations or the like, but not really saying too much at all.
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I've found that most of the people that are "in the know" don't feel the need to give random unsolicited advice to everybody. If you ask a specific question, someone with real experience might very politely offer a couple of words of wisdom but they don't seem to feel the need to prove themselves to everybody that walks in.

This happened to me when I was buying my first handgun. A retired LEO was in the store and when I had narrowed my choices to two particular guns and went away to think about it, he took me aside and told me his experiences with the guns that I was looking at. I took his advice and have not regretted it. My favorite gun is the one he recommended.

I do websites on the side, and have a contract to do one for a local shop. I spent an hour or so with one of the principles going over some details for his site. In that period of time, the local pseudo-commando "helped" about a half-dozen people.

What gets me is that there are people that actually listen and heed the advice that these guys give. It's not usually terribly bad, but it tends to be over-the-top, overkill kind of stuff that they obviously read somewhere but have no real experience with. I do not yet know the owner well enough to ask why he lets the commandos hang around. They probably help sell the higher end stuff.

Here's an example: A tiny woman came in looking for a personal defense gun. She'd taken a firearms safety class at this shop, did her research, and was there to buy a concealable revolver. She remarked several times that recoil bothered her. She was looking at a S&W .38 (a 637 or 642). The commando was trying to talk her into a buying a 340PD (Scandium .357) because it was "way lighter, way more powerful, and more concealable". In reality, it's the same size, only about 3 oz. lighter and about $300 more than what she was looking at. My guess is that soon after she fired a magnum round out of it, she would have traded it in or put it away forever.

An alert clerk stepped in because he recognized her from the class. He steered her toward a used Lady Smith .38 for a good price (She ended up buying it). As she left, the commando shook his head in disgust. What an idiot.
 
The first: I went to a gun store (really more of a reloading store, not many guns) and a guy walks in. He says "There is something wrong with my gun, can I show you?" The clerk says "Sure." The guys pulls a Desert Eagle .357 out of the front of his pants, ejects a mag, and then ejects a round!

This being California, I left that shop pretty damn fast, and haven't been back.

The second:

My local gun shop has some funny employees. The newest guy told me that my Ruger P90 shouldn't be fired more than it needs to because it uses "investment casting" and is a lot weaker than most .45 firearms. He then promptly tried to sell me a 900 dollar Sig p229 (whcih I have already purchased for 500 dollars less) stating that a 9mm is much easier to handle, and won't wear as much on the gun.

Now, if this wasn't enough... I started talking to him about revolvers, just for fun, and he stated that nobody ever buys them anymore because they are too hard to use, and you can't reload them in a firefight.

I asked him if I could see the Mossberg 500 he had on display, and he handed it to me. I checked the chamber (he had just done the same thing) and he asked me why I checked it if he just had.

Of course, that was the absolute final straw, and I walked out.

Now, every time I need something, if he is there, I just leave. Next he'll tell me that I should only carry FMJ ammunition for defense because it penetrates more and that makes people bleed out faster...
 
there is a local dufus who has been around town at some ofthe bigger box stores that sell guns, Galyans, Gander and now sportsman warehouse.

This guy is HUGE, 350 minimum on a 5 11 frame. He has BAD breath and has a foul mouth, just F this and GD that etc, no regard for who ever is around. I walked in the store one day and i did not know he had moved from Gander to SW and i walked back to the gun area. I was looking at a new Vaquero and comparing it to a beretta stampede. I was done looking and I noticed someone now standing beside me and smelling badly...I said to the other kid behind the counter that i was done and he could have them back. as i set the stampede down on the counter dufus picked it up and spun the cylinder and then cocked the hammer on a spinning cylinder, nice big scratch on the finish. I looked at him with disbelief, my son who was with me said "Didn;t you say that was very bad for a SA?" i turned to my son and said yup, and turned like I was leaving when dufus asked me what was effing wrong. I said well you just took two hundred bucks off the value of a gun i was going to buy. He had no idea what he had done.

At his previous location, he tried to tell me Unique was worthless as a pistol powder because it took too much room up in a case.

He was telling some woman who looking for a handgun for selfdefense that no woman had the "appendages" to shoot a 45, she would be seriously injured if she tried to shoot a government model, but a airweight 357 would be just Ideal for her.

while I was standing there letting my daughter shoulder rifles to see what felt best to her, he yelled at her for touching the rifles underage. At the time he yelled i was reaching for the 700 mountain rifle while holding a Kimber 84 in my other hand.

I finally called the store manager and complained to him at SW about his behavior and personality, he said he would look into it.
 
"Mister I-know-it-all" and his girlfriend were looking at handguns through the display glass. The boyfriend was telling her that she "wanted" a 9mm, since it was (Quote) "...more deadly than most other guns"! One of the gun store employees stepped over to assist them, and I heard the girlfriend say, "Oh, that's a cute one!". She was pointing at a snubbie .38 spl revolver. The store employee pulled the "cute" revolver from the display case, swung the cylinder open, then safely handed it to the girlfriend. The boyfriend just HAD to show off, so he reached over and took the revolver from her, closed the cylinder "Hollywood" style, and I saw the employee cringe....but he didn't say anything. The boyfriend held the revolver as both of them looked at it, and the girlfriend asked, "Where's the safety switch?".
Before the store employee could speak, the boyfriend pointed at the cylinder release button and said, "Right there"! The store employee rolled his eyes, but was still trying to act professional, and he explained that revolvers don't have "safety" switches that are visible externally (I almost broke out laughing!)

WHOA! I'm not done! The boyfriend then asked the employee if the revolver they were looking at was a 9mm. The employee told him that it was a .38 spl, but that there was a similarly-sized revolver that was chambered for the 9mm round. He also went one step further by explaining that "moon clips" had to be used with the 9mm version. Boyfriend asked what "moon clips" were, and the employee reached over to a small display box, pulled out a "moon clip" and placed it on the counter. "This is a 'clip'? Can't you use those clips in it?", the boyfriend asked, as he was pointing toward a display of semi-auto pistol magazines! I honestly don't know how that store employee didn't split a gut at that moment, but he politely said, "Those are for pistols. This is a revolver". A few seconds passed before the boyfriend asked, "What's the difference?"

Back to "square 1"!
 
At the local range, I'm shooting a Rem. 788 rifle in .308, it has an 18 inch barrel so it's got quite a bark. (I ALWAYS use earplugs and muffs when shooting). A man comes to the next bench with his 12 or so year old son to teach him to shoot a .22 rimfire rifle. Neither have eye or ear protection. After I fire a couple of rounds, the guy gets all bent out of shape because of the noise. He goes to the range office to complain. Unbelievable,
especially since this range has a dedicated .22 riifle range which is considerably quiter than the big bore range.
 
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