Ever used 120-130 gr. bullets in .308 for Whitetails?

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Richard.Howe

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Just about every .308 factory load out there is for 150/165/180 gr. bullets. For a "pussycat" .308 load, wouldn't a 130 gr. loaded to about 2700 fps (2100 ft-lbs) do the trick out to about 200 yds on Southern Whitetails? Would a 125 gr. Nosler Ballistic tip be a good bullet in this application?

What's your experience?

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Rich
 
I use the 125gr Nosler BT in my Contender in 30-30 Win caliber. It is a 'super 14' barrel, ie a 14" stainless bull barrel. I have taken quite a few whitetails with it and have been VERY pleased with the results. I do not have a chrono so I don't know the velocity. I have had PLENTY of penetration, good expansion and QUICK kills as in DRT! Most have been within 75 yds but one was at 175 yds and it dropped in its tracks.

I think the bullet from a .308 would be EASY to shoot, should be VERY accurate (they shoot in under 1" in my contender) and kill deer well within 100-150 yds, maybe quite a lot more. Check your zero and drop at extended ranges though.

Good luck.
 
I don't own a .308 but i've been using Hornady 130gr Spire points in my 30.06 for years on Whitetails here in NC. I have shot deer from close up out past 300yds with this bullet and i've only had a couple that didn't give complete pass thrus and they went through both shoulders and were lodged in the skin on the opposite side. I have killed countless deer with this bullet and it has always performed excellent for me. I've never lost a deer that i shot with this combination and only a couple have run after the shot and they didn't go maybe 25yds. This is just my opinion but i think the results would be the same if i were using a .308
 
We have had good luck with young shooters in my family killing deer with 125 and 130 grain .308 and 30-06 reduced loads for many years. Not much more needed.


David
 
The concept you've touched on is not a new subject. I've shot a number of deer as well with the 125-130gr reduced loads in a .30/06. Within the parameters of your topic, there is essentially no difference in the .30/06 and .308.

I've used the Sierra 125gr Soft Pt. and the Nosler 125gr B.T. in the last 15yrs or so, and they are even better than you've hoped for.

If sighted in 3" high at 100yds, at a m.v. of 2,700fps, you are zero'd at about 250yds and down only 5" or so at 300yds. So, you're actually good to around 300yds, not just 200yds. More than adequate for putting down whitetails with lung shots.

I have not actually recovered a .30cal bullet launched at this speed from a deer as penetration and expansion closely matches that of the 150-165gr bullets launched at this approximate speed so, bullet performance shouldn't be a consideration.

I shot a lot of the Speer 130gr HP's from a Rem 788 in .30/30 at about 2,500-2,600fps back in the early 70's while still in high school. I got very good results with it too.

A side benefit of the loading you've discussed is that they are usually EXCEPTIONALLY ACCURATE !!!

My older brother has shot a good bit of NRA Highpower, along with considerable long range rifle competition in the Airforce, specifically with the M-16. Back about 1991-92, he shot the Montana state championship NRA highpower match. He used his M-1 Nat. Match with the Sierra 125gr Soft Pt. over the same charge of IMR4064 that he used with the 168gr BTSP. He used the 125gr for the rapid fire stage. He won the rapid fire stage and took 3rd overall. Not bad for a "Marksman" class shooter!!! (Got booted up to "expert" for his performance).

He comments that the 125gr load from his M-1 shot/shoots just like the M855 ball from the M-16's that he shot on the Airforce teams. Soft kicking and quite accurate !!!

For the .308, (I had one that I traded the m788 mentioned above for!), I used IMR4064 as well, 44.0gr if my memory serves me well, with the Sierra 125gr s.pt. at ~2,700fps. It was wonderfully accurate (about the same as with 168gr bt match). According to my ancient Sierra loading manual, this should net you about 2,700fps from a 22" bbl. The "book" says 43.6gr will give 2,800fps from a 26" bbl.

Now days, I would probably use the Remington 125gr Cor-lokt, which are about 65% of the cost of the Sierra's, and are more than accurate enough for shooting Whitetails. I saw them from MidwayUSA.com for about $8.50/100 recently. They are even cheaper by larger quantities. (ie: 500 or 1,000)

BTW; Remington is using that bullet to load their "Managed Recoil" loads for .308 and .30/06.

Exactly what you were thinking about !!!

Power isn't actually absent at this level. My younger brother uses a .308 (pre-64 M-70 featherweight) with the Nosler 150gr Part. loaded to a chronographed 2,900fps. He has shot 4 elk to date, and not yet recovered a bullet.
If this works for a 400-600lb elk, the 125gr at 2,700 is still way,way, more than enough for "Bambi".
 
If you want to reload most manuals have loads
listed for 125-130gr bullets. Have loaded both weights for 308 and 3006 for 25 years, used the lightest load listed under 4064. Mother was a real deer getter with 125gr out to 150 yards,
her longest shot.

Loaded 130gr in 3006 for two NEFs for the boys, both would group under 1.25 @ 100 yards. Both the 308 and 3006 had very mild recoil.
 
As others have said I think you'll do fine with these loads. For my son's first deer rifle, a Savage bolt action .30-30, I loaded 110 grain spire points over a charge of Win 748 and this combination took out four deer in two years - the only ones he shot at. All four were under 100 yards but fell within a few steps of where they were hit. I would have to think that these loads would be milder than what you would have in a .308 so I think you should go for it.
 
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