I have a box of those bullets to try out. I got them from someone on the B,S,T forum, several years ago, before I realized the reload data on them. But I still have to build a solid lower to match the 24" 1:8 twist bull barrel.A fellow member paid it forward with 75 grain eldms and they will be used for the cause... results will be in a bolt rifle due to listed oal.... I can test them in lapua, Hornady or RP. Due to the very nature of the type of bullet I'm also pondering book oal or .020 of the lands....