Expanding Shotgun Slugs?

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That is an evil looking slug for sure.
But let's be realistic.
ANY 12 gauge Foster type slug would more than suffice against the frail human body.
I leave the lawyer frenzy for the legal sharks.
 
thats kind of like duct taping a knife to a cannon ball.......sure, you can.......but do you really need to?
 
Saw a picture of a geletin block with the fragmenting one, looks the the primary slug penetrates at least 12, hard to tell and my internet is too slow to download the video. Some of the others expand without fragmenting, I wonder how those would penetrate on a deer sized animal. I'd probably go just regular slugs myself, but this is a need idea that I've wondered about in the past. It'll be nice to see the results if anyone actually uses them.
 
I've tested both of Ddupleks expanding slug offerings in 20% gel and they inflict a lot of damage. The fragmented front section essentially creates a shrapnel burst inside of a media while the stem continues to track through.

When researching the article I wrote on them I learned a lot about the Latvian style of big game hunting. Most shots are taken at driven, running game where textbook (by American standards) shots aren't often possible. The extra laceration created by the steel fragments is intended to compensate for shots that are a little outside the vitals.

The steel fragments look a lot like chainsaw teeth and are sharp enough to cut skin with enough applied pressure.
 
Nope not for me. I want a clean hit, or a clean miss. No little dagger thingys flyin anywhere.



10-4 on the legal , they'd be on that like a .69 caliber Black Talon
 
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i have some but at over 3 dollars a piece delivered price, i havent shot them yet
i think they are awesome and no shotgun round is as impressive
also it has the highest brass of any plastic hulled round ive seen
 
I want to try these and Other Brand Variants in my 20 Gauge.

I dont know if it would be a good choice for HD ...the 20 Gauge only has -1.9 drop at 125 yards.... I would imagine a 12 Ga. would be even greater!

I am going to try these in a few different guns and few different barrells!

I am sure rifled slug barrel would perform best.

Anyone here used any of them and know choke limitations in smooth barrels?
 

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Winchester Super-X foster slugs will expand into a large lead doughnut from any average 12 gauge shotgun, when fired into standard calibrated ordinance gel.

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They look like they might be aerodynamically unstable. Don't barbell shaped things tend to tumble?
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They're front heavy, so they fly true. I got a hand sized 5-shot group out of them at 50 yards out of my Benelli Nova tactical. There is nothing aerodynamic about them and they're designed for ranges of 100 yards or less. I'm of the opinion that expecting a smooth bore slug gun to be effective past 100 yards (and that's a stretch) is like getting angry because your pickup truck can't win the Indy 500.
 
thats kind of like duct taping a knife to a cannon ball.......sure, you can.......but do you really need to?
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in a word, no
but i would still do it just for fun
 
They would be the last thing you want for hunting. Shotgun slugs start out light for caliber or you couldn't stand the recoil. For hunting the last thing you want is expansion; a 3/4 inch hole through and through will get the job done nicely. That's why Brennekes are the way to go because they are hard enough not to expand.

The only conceivable use for the slugs shown might be HD because you don't want the slug to pass through. Buckshot does it better and cheaper.

Don't waste your money.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDAEk9K7UaU

Okay, I watched the vid. I wasn't terribly impressed, in part because parts were recovered. I checked some of the other vids on Youtube and pretty much any 12 ga. slug will explode things like milk jugs and watermelons.

Saw this video that explained how it worked better...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kElBqU1f0GE

It has a nice graph showing penetration differences between the splinters and the slug, only the graph has no measurements and so is useless.

This vid showed the round at the very end and it looks like maybe 15" of penetration of the slug and maybe 6" for the fragments.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJGh_IoSq_Y

This vid shows an interesting way to hunt, a stantionary line of hunters, but I don't get any sound and can't tell what happened with the rounds. Note that they do show some pretty darned messed up meat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzPmbBIOhH8&feature=related

I don't know that it is a solution in search of a problem as noted any more than any new round could be cateorized as such. What it does appear to be is an extremely expensive way to get results that otherwise could be had for less, and if for hunting, probably with less meat damage.
 
Guess I'm just old fashioned , but I like the sound of "Doughnut of Lead", like "Kiss of Death". Got a ...nice ring...to it.:D
 
I don't know that it is a solution in search of a problem as noted any more than any new round could be cateorized as such. What it does appear to be is an extremely expensive way to get results that otherwise could be had for less, and if for hunting, probably with less meat damage.
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They may also have a niche if lead free hunting zones -unfortunately- continue to expand. There aren't many other non-lead slugs for smooth bore shotguns that i know of.

European Cartridge Unlimited makes an all brass slug as a handloading component,but those are ultra expensive, overkill for non-dangerous game, and difficult to import.

When it comes to slugs for smoothbores, I do put a lot of stock in what the europeans produce. In many countries the only guns legal for big game hunting are the same types of guns used for bird and rabbit. In Greece, for example, rifles and rifled barrel shotguns are prohibited for hunting and Latvia (where Ddupleks are produced) rifles were only recently allowed. It makes sense that in those places engineers would maximize the potential of their limited choice of weapons.

We're very lucky as American hunter that we have so many firearm and ammo options that we get to go on the internet and bash every additional option that comes on the market.:D
 
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