Eyes and ears....

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Dave McCracken

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Some years back I got pelted with small shot on a dove shoot.An idiot took a low shot after being told at least three times that we could shoot only if we saw sky beyond the bird. He got excited and forgot. I doubt he forgot the world class cussin' out I gave him.

The shot itself was no big thing, hardly left a mark. But, one pellet pinged off my prescription sunglasses, which had safety lenses. A lesson there, and cheap at the price.

I was probably suffering from a bit of hearing loss by the first grade. We didn't know then that extremely loud noises damaged the ears, and I had been exposed to 22s and shotguns with heavy loads well before all my baby teeth were in.

Since then, there's been many more shots, some explosions, chainsaws,lots of great rock and roll, etc. I have trouble following conversations in bars and restaurants, and there's crickets, whistles and hums I hear that do not exist outside of my aural nerves.

Tintinnis is a real SOB.And there's no cure.

But there is prevention. Good protection is neither scarce nor expensive. A working set of shooting glasses in one of the many shades available is only $12 at my local range.

Silencio's effective ear plugs are around $7 for the base model, and the valve jobs that shut down the sound of gunfire but allow normal sounds to be heard are but a little more.

I had a set of basic plugs and used same for a decade and more. Lost one, bought another set and kept the old one for a spare. Cost per use is picayune.

Muffs are a little more expensive, but the best of them provide not only superior sound mitigation
in the ear canal but muffle any sounds that might come through bone conduction in the area surrounding the ear.

Plugs work better for me than muffs for clays. The muffs knock against the stock and sometimes come off seal enough to leak sound inside. YMMV.

I do use muffs for bench work and handguns.

Those of us with glasses can do as I did and have a set of "Shatterproof"sunglasses made in our prescriptions. Side shields (AKA Blinders) are mandatory on non wraparound styles. These also work well for hunting, and a set of those little Silencios weigh less than an oz and fit into a pocket.

At this point, I use safety glasses all the time when shooting or hunting, and plugs when doing anything other than deer hunting. That involves very few shots but I need all the hearing I can get there.

Hope this helps, sing out if there's questions...
 
As always, good thoughts, Dave.

I also suffer from tinnitus, which has gotten worse over the past year. I attribute the recent advancement of the condition to too many days shooting pheasants without hearing protection.

So, a couple months ago, I picked up a pair of Peltor Tactical 7 Surround electronic muffs. Expensive, but way better than having my hearing deteriorate any more.

Now, I use those all the time, and double up with plugs inside them while at the range. The nice thing is that the sound amplification is directional, so that while hunting, my ability to hear birds flush is actually slightly increased.

With plugs inside them and the amplification turned up, I can hear well enough to understand ROs and anyone talking to me.

My range bag is chock-full of hearing protection. I've got the electronic muffs, a pair of standard muffs, an old set of Army-issue plugs, and a pack of 10 pairs of foam plugs. I also keep several pairs of shooting glasses with me. That way, if I take anyone shooting, or someone happens to forget, I have plenty to lend around.

On a related story, a couple months ago I went out for an afternoon of sporting clays. At the first station, there was a large group of teenagers screwing around. They weren't being unsafe (at least while I watched them), but they were taking forever to shoot their round. I decided to skip to the next station and shoot #1 at the end.

I shot my round, then some 5-stand and went to the clubhouse for some food. While I was eating, the group of kids came in. They sat behind me and one kid semi-shouted "I can't hear anything but this wicked ringing." Then, about 2 minutes later, he said "I guess that's why people wear those ear-thingies."

Arghhh!!!! The place is posted all over the place that you should wear hearing and eye protection, and the owner will even lend them to you for free.
 
I see the hearing loss in my two work partners. One older guy that's been in construction all his life and couldn't tell what a pair of earmuffs was if he was slapped in the face with a pair, and another boy who shot on the skeet team when he was young, and dove/duck/quail hunted all his life without hearing protection. To this day, he still doesn't.:rolleyes:

I wonder sometimes if the younger boy turns up the radio so loud because he likes loud music, or if he just can't hear it. Either way, there's nothing more embarassing than a 32-year-old that needs a teeny-bopper's pumpin stereo in his truck.

It's aggravating to no end having them all time say, "What?", "Did you say something?", "I can't hear with this radio playing..", etc. Now I'm not one to wear hearing protection during low-shotcount hunting like deer or turkey, but other than those few times you'll always see me with a pair of muffs, and keepin that damn radio turned down. Keep 4 sets of muffs in the truck in case one breaks or someone else wants to borrow a pair.

It's scary when a guy your own age is riding with you in your truck and a good song comes on the radio. I'll say, "Oh man, I like this song." His response, "The radio's on?"

Scary stuff man. Keep them ears protected.
 
This can't be said often enough.

When I was young and indestructable (read stupid) it never occured to me to cover my ears. Nobody I knew ever wore hearing protection or even thought about it.

Years go by.....

Thousands of rounds of ammo from .22 up go by.....

To many hours in rock concerts and listening to really loud music in my pickup go by......

Now I can't hear very well. I wonder why? WIfe complains that I'm not listening. Background noise is particularly bothersome when trying to have a conversation. "Who are you calling a son-of-a-b.....; oh, do I want some of this dish? Yes, thank you."

To further prove my stubborness and stupidity, I still rarely wear protection while shooting .22 rifles or in the dove fields. Why is this? Must be because they don't seem load anymore.....quiter loads I guess.

Kids don't try this at home.
 
Good advice that I hope doesn't fall on deaf ears.

Okay, I promise to only do that once a year.

I lost total hearing in my right ear due to a nasty little tumor, and the tinnitus in my left ear has gotten so bad that there are times it keeps me from sleeping. Now I wear muffs anytime I shoot, unless I'm dry firing and I might start then.
 
Thanks, folks. It's easy to see I'm not the only one. Maybe newer folks will learn from our history.
 
Once on my ship i stepped out on the superstructure thinking so hard about a brokem piece of gear that i forgot we were doing gunnery excercises. Just as i stepped out the 3in/50 mount went off about 20 feet away...all biological processes stopped at that point and only the fact that we weren't taking rolls at the moment kept me from going over the side. I had no ear, eye or pampers on at the time.
 
A .22lr rifle generates roughly 134 db per shot.

Noises over 90 db can and will cause hearing damage over time. It won't happen all at once (with a .22), but the more you shoot, the more incremental damage you will do.

If you are able to knock the sound level down, you lengthen the amount of time your hearing is good for. Even a cheap pair of foam plugs can work pretty well.

I bagged my ears with small arms fire in the Army. Now, they ring all the time. If you can prevent that damage, do so ASAP.
 
My hearing loss started with chainsaws and R&R when I was a teenager. Guns came later and did their share. Early shooting was done with those cheap plastic baffle type plugs; they really aren't that good. I had tinnitus by my senior year in college. During my career in Naval Aviation, the constant whine of jet turbines continued to degrade my hearing.

These days I shoot shotguns with a set of those molded ear plugs you can have made at some gun shows; they work real well. For handguns I usually double up and wear standard ear muffs along with the ear plugs. Ear muffs often don’t work with rifles, but I’ve had success using Tac-6 Peltors. On a controlled rifle range where hearing all range commands is important, electronic Tac-6’s work fairly well. I’ve also used Tac-6 muffs while in the woods and they actually help you hear better due to the sound amplification. Experiment and you’ll find that wearing earplugs and electronic ear-muffs is ideal. Good hearing protection and when you crank up the volume, you can still hear the rest of the world.

Just my opinion, YMMV
 
Good input on the Peltors, riverdog. The last thing I tried louded up the hiss and background noise. Maybe the technology has advanced.

Still, an oz of prevention is the best approach.
 
With my Peltors (Tactical 7 Surround), there is noticable hiss when I am using them alone and turn the volume up pretty high.

If I double up and use some foam plugs underneath, I can turn the volume all the way up, and the hiss is gone. I can hear almost as well as if I'm not wearing hearing protection, but I've got a combined NRR of 56 (31 for plugs, 25 for muffs).

My particular Peltors are full-size, meaning that they have no "shaping" done to reduce their size. The things are pretty massive. However, I've not encountered any problems using them shooting either shotguns or rifles. Sometimes, they may ding against the stock slightly, but I've not had it be hard enough to change their position or break the seal.
 
I like doubling up with earmuffs because muffs can lose their seal or get knocked off while ear plugs will continue to work just fine. I also noticed the TAC-7 hissing when I didn't use the earplugs. It didn't really bother me, I just turned the volume down until it wasn't noticable. Still, IMO, they work better when used in conjunction with earplugs.
 
Some people look at me funny (brother and dad, especially) when I put on a pair of earmuffs when working in the shop, especially when using my milling machine or other power tools, but they always wear hearing protection at the gun range. My brother also thinks my girlfriend and I are odd for turning the volume on the TV down from 25 to about 10 when we get the remote control out of his hands. :rolleyes:

Kharn
 
Those damn crickets never shut up! They just keep getting louder and louder.

Ol' Sawbones said it would only get worse and I would need hearing aids before long.
 
I've got a combined NRR of 56 (31 for plugs, 25 for muffs).

TrapperReady, sorry but you can't add the NRR of two devices and come up with an accurate figure for the comination. It's more like 34 for both. But more is better than less anyday.

--Rick
 
Tintinnis is a real SOB.And there's no cure

I hear ya Dave. I'm at the point where if the ringing in my ears does stop briefly I think somethings wrong. :uhoh:
 
Ricky B -

You are quite correct. I was actually thinking about that post the other day. I had forgotten that the decibel scale is logarithmic, and wondered what the actual NRR would be.

Thanks for the correction!
 
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