Fact or Fiction, The best and worst

Status
Not open for further replies.
Oh, and the game warden in Maine who told a guy that the reason an animal escaped after being shot by an arrow was that he was too close to the animal and the arrow didn't have time to accelerate.

This is very possible. As long as the deer is closer than the length of the arrow when the bow is at rest ;)
 
If you watch closely just about every time you see a handgun fired the slide locks back on an empty chamber, even if they only fired one round. They have to do that so there is no possibility of a ND by the actor.

I had an uncle who landed on the beach at Normandy, when Saving Private Ryan came out he tried to watch it (my aunt told me the story later), he sat in the living room alone and turned it on. I don't think he was prepared for the realism of the violence in the movie. She told me he watched about fifteen minutes of it and turned it off and was having some breathing problems for a little while afterward, it affected him quite a bit. I asked him about it much later and he just said "If you want to know what it was like where I was just watch that movie". Sadly he has since passed.
 
The book was better, as is usually the case. The .47-70 had mythological powers, being handed down through generations of Native Americans.:p
There are a lot of "Longmire for Sheriff" bumper stickers here abouts, especially in election season.
I wouldn't want Longmire for sheriff, there's a murder every week under his watch!
 
The movie rule that I most love to hate is the "any single good guy with a medium caliber semi-auto handgun will always defeat many bad guys with automatic rifles and machine guns" rule.
 
The are endless examples of annoying or disappointing gun scenes in movies. The only video of an actor shooting that really impressed me wasn't even in a movie, it's this clip of Keanu Reeves shooting three gun, I believe as part of his training for the John Wick movie(s).

 
If you're looking for improbable shots, I like Enemy at the Gates.

Of course the reports are that Vasili Zaitsev actually did actually make the 1:1,000,000 shot by putting a round down the scope of a German sniper's rifle.
 
All movies have one thing in common. They are all made by people who finance the Anti-Gun movement. Humm! They buy lots of Anti-Gun propaganda with our "popcorn", money.:p
 
I don't remember the name of the show, but it was a mini-series about the American West. In a battle scene, a Native American warrior takes a one-handed shot with a muzzle-loading rifle from horseback at full gallop, with his arm fully extended in front of him, and hits his enemy. Yeah, I'm sure that happened all the time ...
 
If you're looking for improbable shots, I like Enemy at the Gates.

Of course the reports are that Vasili Zaitsev actually did actually make the 1:1,000,000 shot by putting a round down the scope of a German sniper's rifle.

That scene has been played out in a number films. IIRC correctly, Sniper (1993 Tom Berenger), Private Ryan, Enemy At The Gates, and there is one more I can't recall at the moment, but, to my knowledge, that feat is actually attributed to Vietnam era Marine sniper Carlos N. Hathcock in his memoir "93 Confirmed Kills."
 
My biggest pet peeve is when people rack slides or pump shot guns to show they mean business. Don't you keep one chambered?????????
This. I'm pointing my gun at you like I'm going to shoot you or engage in a gunfight, but if you get me angry, then I'm actually going to rack the slide and put a round in the chamber. Much better even when lots of people, chorus like, do it. Movie bad guys should know this and shoot immediately before the good guys are actually ready. Lol

Another one is cars going perfectly straight, but flipping over and exploding when hit with a pistol round. Very realistic.
 
All movies have one thing in common. They are all made by people who finance the Anti-Gun movement. Humm! They buy lots of Anti-Gun propaganda with our "popcorn", money.:p
My wife gets aggravated with me when I ridiqule "Politicaly correct" movies as we watch them,So I try to keep silent,but sometimes I can't hold my tongue..We watched a movie on Netflix,or Hulu a while back about a woman aircrash investigator whose gay brother was killed in the crash,and all her white male chauvinist pig counter parts were trying to blame it on a muslim,but she discovered the truth which was of course that it was a middle age white male .Who she refered to as a "GunCrazy"...I made it about 15,or20 minutes keeping my mouth shut,but when the gay brothers boyfriend introduced his self as Sebastian I just let go,and ran my mouth thru the rest of the movie..
 
All movies have one thing in common. They are all made by people who finance the Anti-Gun movement. Humm! They buy lots of Anti-Gun propaganda with our "popcorn", money.:p
One of the "Lethal Weapon" movies made this pretty obvious when the cops are questioning a "gun nut" at a gun store and there is an NRA poster displayed right behind the guy.
Funny thing though, it is a reprint of a National Recovery Act poster from the 30's... o_O
 
I wouldn't want Longmire for sheriff, there's a murder every week under his watch!
I read somewhere that there were more murders in the first season of Longmire in his county than there were in the whole state of Wyoming for a number of years in real life. I'll look for the actual stats.
 
Bourne Ultimatum... sound of racking slide every time a gun is aimed... no action by the actor.
 
The sniper must have switched between the USMC Unertl scope ....
I thought the long scope used was a Lyman Target Spot. It was probably the closest thing they had to replicate the Winchester/Lyman A5 scope the Army used in WWII.

USMC folks preferred the Unertl 8X with its better optics.
 
Last edited:
I read somewhere that there were more murders in the first season of Longmire in his county than there were in the whole state of Wyoming for a number of years in real life. I'll look for the actual stats.

http://grantland.com/hollywood-pros...a-county-the-most-murder-plagued-place-on-tv/

Here you go. The murder rate in Longmire, which is set in one of the lowest violent crime rate states in the country, is higher than in Flint MI, the most murder prone city in the US. The murder rate in the show is about 75 times higher than the expected rate for the area that's supposed to be depicted.
 
Watching the movie "Quigley Down Under" watching Tom Selleck showed the bad rancher his 900 yard target with a dozen or so bullet holes covering his palm to prove his skills for the job he was after made me quietly chuckle. The best 45 caliber black powder rifles in that late 1890's era used in long range competition would keep 15 shots inside about 18 inches that far down range; about 2 MOA.
Major Land stated that Carlos Hathcock's M70 shot 2 MOA at 100yds.
I must have seen an action flick where the protagonist lays our his mat, sets up his spotting scope and his notebook, cinches up his hardback and slings up just before SHTF.
I just don't remember it.
 
Major Land stated that Carlos Hathcock's M70 shot 2 MOA at 100yds.
When I chatted with GySgt Hathcock at the 1971 Interservice Rifle Matches at MCB Quantico, VA, Carlos said he new that rifle wouldn't win the 1000 yard match we shot, but he knew how it shot with M72 30-06 match ammo that was good enough for him. He also was very familiar with its trigger; a big advantage to marksmanship for anyone. He won that year's Interservice 1000 yard bolt gun match with a 30 caliber magnum, 30-338 or 300 Win; I now forget.

The USMC Rifle Team folks tested his M70 rifle after Gunny Hathcock retired and found it shot about 3 MOA at a thousand. Not surprising as Lake City Army Ammo Plant's best lots of M72 30-06 match ammo tested about 12 to 14 inches at 600 yards from bolt action match-grade test barrels in a Mann rest. Had Lake City used bullets from the best bullet making machine they had instead mixing lots from the 3 or 4 machines whose bullets were all mixed together for a given ammo lot, they'd have shot test groups half that size.
 
Last edited:
The new Magnificent Seven movie is probably one of the most unbelievable for me.

Underline is since I can't figure the quote part out yet.

Two things that really stood out from allowing me to enjoy the re-make more.

First was the bell tower scene with Goodnight and Billy. One has
a '73 rifle and the other a '66 carbine, yet they are both grabbing ammo
from the same cup 'o bullets.
I guess repros have been around long enough (in shared calibers) that most folks didn't even notice.

The second flaw, and I think the worst, were the shooting scenes with the female lead shooting a long gun right handed.
The actress is very obviously left eye dominant as you painfully watch her putting her face
across the stock (while squinting the right eye) in an effort to align the sights.
If the gun wranglers on set were worth their salt, they would have instructed her to just 'point and pull the trigger' with both eyes open while simply looking downrange.
It made me actually feel bad for her to have not received competent assistance.

JT
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top