Fact or Fiction, The best and worst

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In the movie "Behind Enemy Lines" when Gene Hackman seeing the first shot miss target, told the sniper to make an adjustment to his Garand(?) of 3 mils then the sniper was shown moving the sight knob 3 clicks (all as best I can remember). Garand knobs were almost 1 MOA, not mils which were about 3 MOA. Details, Details..... Forget 'em and enjoy the story.
 
It's snowing here and about 28f. Thanks for the replies. Hey AP, you make we want to try throwing my gun up in the air, tie my shoes, eat a pizza, grab my gun and shoot a bunny a mile away. Great clip! I love the stuff even though I grit my teeth a bit. Thanks.
 
Here's another one that bothers me, as if we need more... Space wars. Guns have recoil, magazines, and look an awful lot alike the guns of today. I thought they might be a bit more than shooting blue, green and red stuff. Oh well.
 
Bart B. said:
In the movie "Behind Enemy Lines" when Gene Hackman seeing the first shot miss target, told the sniper to make an adjustment to his Garand(?) of 3 mils then the sniper was shown moving the sight knob 3 clicks (all as best I can remember). Garand knobs were almost 1 MOA, not mils which were about 3 MOA. Details, Details..... Forget 'em and enjoy the story.
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Wasn't that in "Uncommon Valor?" A very young Patrick Swayze was the spotter. Funny though that Hackman did TWO films about being shot down "behind enemy lines." ("Bat 21," 1988, with Danny Glover) love that film.
 
Thanks. My memory refresh circuits short to ground more often these days. I now agree on the correct movie.

Memory's a lot like the weather; bad is better than none at all.
 
S you get older you kinda got to take what you can get sometimes. I spend an embarrassingly large amount of time looking for stuff that I put up where it wouldn't be lost.
 
Speedo66 said:
Maybe there's something in the water?
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Not really. In Wyoming, Whisky is for drinking, Water is for fighting. When in Wyoming be Damn careful about messing with someone's water rights.
Longmire, was fiction. In Wyoming a County Sheriff is not a common lawman. They are Gods and Devils all rolled into one.:uhoh:
 
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hmm...someone already mentioned John Wick for a fair treatment in room clearing...all in all a good popcorn movie.

if you want a serious laugh...then go get the original Django with Franco Nero playing the main part. It is...interesting. :)

For a real pleasure to watch however check out Justified. It was a wonderful series IMO with Walt Goggins playing the main baddie and Tim Olyphant and Nick Searcy playing the good guys. Never missed an episode.
 
PowerG said:
S you get older you kinda got to take what you can get sometimes. I spend an embarrassingly large amount of time looking for stuff that I put up where it wouldn't be lost.
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I've been doing that since I was a kid. It's actually better to just toss stuff on a bench.
 
Watched the Magnificent Seven (2016) movie last night. My biggest bone of contention other than the impossible shots hitting their target, is they SELDOM reload and the Gatling gun scene is ridiculous. As a former western actor and reenactor, it is a bone of contention with me. How hard is it to show people reloading?
 
2Guns was pretty bad, too. I enjoyed the movie overall but Marky Mark was killed the pilot of a helo maybe 1000 feet off the ground and moving full speed with one shot from his Sig P226.:scrutiny:
 
I'm pretty sure the Bad Boys: III that's supposed to be getting made soon will give them all a run for their money.

My personal favorite is the Uzi firing while falling down the stairs to randomly kill all the bad guys in True Lies or one of the other identical Ahnold movies. Fail on the grip safety, sear system, and recoil mechanics (considering the 'kick' made the chick drop the thing in the first place)

Hard Boiled was pretty awesome as far as the ridiculous scale of the John Woo gunfights (we're talking literally tens of thousands of rounds of automatic fire exchanged over a half-hour shootout between hundreds of mafia goons and policemen, dozens on both sides killed or set on fire, all of it stemming from a botched illicit sale of a few weapons crates in the basement)

TCB
 
How hard is it to show people reloading?
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By hard, you meant tedious, right? ;) "Bang" sells tickets, not clicking sounds implying reloading off-camera. Not to mention, I'm fairly certain a lot of actors would be comically awkward doing anything but pointing the gun and jerking it back repeatedly (I understand that even blanks aren't super common anymore due to their liability, and that everything is often done in post production)

Video games are even worse, because they often half-try for realism but fail horribly. Every FPS I've played does reloads at about five times the speed of any normal human (reloading an entire Evans rifle in Red Dead Redemption takes about eight seconds, for instance) and usually incorporates hilariously bad practices (Half Life 2 not only wrist-snaps the revolver cylinder open/closed, but also spins the thing against the poor cylinder bolt with a sickening 'bizzzzzzz' every time. I think the Python depicted would tolerate that sequence about twice before it started going out of time and spitting lead everywhere then jamming)

TCB
 
I watched the Last of the Mohicans again recently. During the scene where Hawkeye and Uncas provided covering fire for a runner as he took off into the woods, Hawkeye took a very difficult shot with his Kentucky rifle. Already handicapped by crude sights and low light, Hawkeye did all he could to improve his chances of making the hit by firing supported -- body leaning on the parapet, weak side elbow resting on his knee. It was an excellent demonstration of field shooting.
 
don,t you like when the hero out runs bullets from a dozen automatic firearms and when behind some cover looks over it and then ducks bullets fired at him from different bad boys. total BS. eastbank.
 
Dog Soldier said:
Not really. In Wyoming, Whisky is for drinking, Water is for fighting. When in Wyoming be Damn careful about messing with someone's water rights.
Longmire, was fiction. In Wyoming a County Sheriff is not a common lawman. They are Gods and Devils all rolled into one.:uhoh:
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Actually, I was talking about the water in Flint, MI. lol
 
Django Unchained was an awful movie with Jamie Fox hitting everything he shoots at from a moving horse , not looking and unrealistic bloody gunshot wounds. Just a terrible movie. There was an older 90s movie where I believe it was Fox again sniping with an ice projectile so it would be "untraceable" . It is hard to pick with so many anti gunner hollywood types making action movies but these two stood out to me.
 
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don,t you like when the hero out runs bullets from a dozen automatic firearms and when behind some cover looks over it and then ducks bullets fired at him from different bad boys. total BS. eastbank.
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Or when the hero is running across an open field with the good looking woman that he's saving,and a fighter plane,is strafing them all the bullets hit just inches from their heels from one end of the field to the other..Some of the stuff I see on tv kinda worries me though..Like what if I was about to shoot a wise cracking rabbit,and it stuck his finger in the barrel of my shotgun..
 
As a teen I saw "The Second Best Secret Agent in the Whole Wide World" (between Bond movies) that has a scene where agent Charles Vine had to reload a C96 in a gun fight. The fact the movie showed a reload impressed me.

To an earlier post: Pump action shotgun for helicopters? Harumph! Everyone who saw "From Russia With Love" knows for that you need a 6.35mm AR-7! Some of these ... movies.

BTW, about a recent Western , I read there was part of a gunfight scene where the protagonist switched from his Colt six-shooter to a Colt he'd taken from one of the bad guys. The film editor cut that switch to speed up the action, so it looked like the shooter had a twelve shot Colt SAA. There are probably a lot of reloads and magazine changes on the cutting room floors of Hollywood.
 
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mach-1 said:
It's cold and my reloading bench is being moved. I bored! My wife and I just watched another move where the machine guns have an endless supply of bullets and the sniper takes his scope, twist and it's perfectly mounted. Of course he makes a 1:1,000,000 shot. I was thinking what are your best and worst movie moments with rifles? Fact or fiction. I know this is a pistol thought but I did not know that nationally ranked guys will be hired to shoot for effect in movies. Tom Cruise in something. Anyway, if your interested have fun.
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Hollywierd? ... The list is too long to put here...
Most every thing from the 1930's westerns with their unlimited shot six guns to the present.
 
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