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This afternoon I was at my cousin's for a family gathering. One couple was visiting from Northern Idaho.We got to talking about hunting, he is really into it. I asked if there were any wolves in his ncek of the woods.

He said there are wolves and they are plentiful. He then mentioned that a buddy of his bagged a wolf that was over two hundred pounds.

Are they really that big!:eek:

There are deer that don't weigh that much. And that weight in a wolf would be all muscle. I would hate to have an encounter with one.
 
I've got a buddy alittle north of Boise that would agree with you. He says the wolves have really taken a toll on deer and are working hard on the elk. When you got long distance special interest groups, stupid judges and fed intervention this is going to continue until the control of preditors is handed over to local states. Our modest elk herd here in western SoDak is feeling the effect of big cats regardless of the season/quota we have.
 
Well, in our neck of the woods, wolf-sightings usually include the phrase "at first, I thought it was a deer", not "at first, I thought it was a coyote"

They get real big, especially with lots of food, which we have.
 
"...over two hundred pounds..." Your cousin's buddy is halucinating. A big, male, grey wolf weighs around 90 lbs. Deer go much bigger than that. A deer is all muscle too. So is a domestic cat. Wolves aren't interested in people any more than bears are, either.
"...Are wolf skins good for anything?..." Winter hides make good coats, collars/hood trim and anything else for cold weather garments. Just like winter coyote hides.
"...The only good wolf is a dead wolf..." That's very Medieval of you. Not particularly knowledgeable either. Killing the predators leads to an over population of deer. That leads to losses of grain crops and huge increases in road kill claims for the insurance companies. Road kill claims, here in Ontario, are costing millions.
 
According to wikipedia: "Wolf weight varies geographically; on average, European wolves may weigh 38.5 kilograms (85 lb), North American wolves 36 kilograms (79 lb)..."

I don't live near them. thank God, for if I did, I would shoot them on sight. I agree that they serve no purpose especially in the lower 48. Everyone says they have a place in the wild to "control animal populations". Again, I disagree. When the U.S. was settled, population control of big game was taken over by superior predator known as the human being in the form of a hunter.
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Sunray said:
"...Killing the predators leads to an over population of deer.
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True, but the over PROTECTION of predators leads to significantly lower deer populations. Thats why they have controlled hunt numbers in all large predators in most areas.
 
With a quick search "The heaviest recorded gray wolf in North America was killed on 70 Mile River in east-central Alaska on July 12, 1939 and weighed 79.4 kilograms (175 lb)"

Is possible that some of this weight came from stomach contents...

So 200 Lb wolf, possible, but not likely,

if he did kill one you might want to tell him he missed his chance to be famous.
 
At the Silverwolf gun store in Detroit in 1962, there was a full mount of a wolf in the store window. I estimated at the time that it would have weighed at least 125 pounds and maybe more. FWIW, the foreleg diameter was near the same as my own forearm. Body length and diameter certainly had it looking like 125 or more.
 
Sunray said:
"...over two hundred pounds..." Your cousin's buddy is halucinating. A big, male, grey wolf weighs around 90 lbs. Deer go much bigger than that. A deer is all muscle too. So is a domestic cat. Wolves aren't interested in people any more than bears are, either.
"...Are wolf skins good for anything?..." Winter hides make good coats, collars/hood trim and anything else for cold weather garments. Just like winter coyote hides.
"...The only good wolf is a dead wolf..." That's very Medieval of you. Not particularly knowledgeable either. Killing the predators leads to an over population of deer. That leads to losses of grain crops and huge increases in road kill claims for the insurance companies. Road kill claims, here in Ontario, are costing millions.
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The cure is, LONGER DEER SEASONS!

I lived with wolves in my back yard in Alaska for a long time, i've seen what they are REALLY like in the wild and i'm in the "shoot on site camp"!

DM
 
Wolves tend to get bigger the further north you go, just as all animals do. There's some biological "law" describing that. Wisconsin deer are larger than Texas deer and Alaska/Canada moose are larger than Wyoming moose and so on.

A 200 pound wolf? I don't think so.
 
The biggest wolf ever killed was 230 lbs. He's a monster.

CanadianWolf.jpg

However, he is also more than twice the size of the average timber wolf male, which is usually under 100 lbs. That's still a big animal, but your cousin's buddy definitely is definitely a fisherman.

Killing them on site? Not here in CO. We need more, as the Pumas can't keep the game populations in check alone and so many licenses go unbought and unfilled every year. Our DOW needs to loosen up and let us take more than one per season.
 
I encountered a mother wolf and 2 youngsters this past deer archery season about 12 yds away; I heard the pups over a little knoll, they sounded like a couple of coyotes. I thought I could pop one with my bow but as I topped the hill and realized they were wolves, I heard a snap, rolled over and looked right into the yellow eyes of the black momma. She was tracking me and was almost as scared of me as I was of her when she spotted me, as I drew my pistol she yipped and the three took off. I would say she was at least 125 but not more than 150 but it was a female, the "pups" were probably 40lbs. My hand had the checker marks from my HK imprinted for hours.
 
I've shot many coyotes but I'd never shoot a wolf. There's just something majestic and mysterious and powerful about a wolf. Not that I've had the chance since I've never seen one in the woods. I do know for a fact that they're one helluva lot bigger than a coyote. I've personally seen one being weighed that was shot about 20 miles from here. 149# That's not 200# but it was huge and I'd be a bit nervous if I saw one in the woods that big. Huge wolves do exist...
 
MachIVshooter said:
The biggest wolf ever killed was 230 lbs. He's a monster.

CanadianWolf.jpg

However, he is also more than twice the size of the average timber wolf male, which is usually under 100 lbs. That's still a big animal, but your cousin's buddy definitely is definitely a fisherman.

Killing them on site? Not here in CO. We need more, as the Pumas can't keep the game populations in check alone and so many licenses go unbought and unfilled every year. Our DOW needs to loosen up and let us take more than one per season.
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That looks photoshopped to me!

DM
 
The other leg is behind the wolves tail. You can barely see it. Not saying if it is real or pshopped.

I have no opinion on the wolf situation.
 
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