valleyforge.1777
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Failure to extract with 9 mm Titegroup: not enough powder, or too much?
I just started making 9 mm rounds with Titegroup and had several rounds each mag that the fired round stayed in the chamber, did not extract, and thus jammed up the firing string. Easily extracted each of these cases by dropping mag and just hand cycling the slide. None of them stuck or were hard to open the slide, etc. Wondering if I am using too small of a load, or too high of a load?
DETAILS:
Long time reloader of 9 mm (75,000+ rounds) previously always using Win231 / HP38.
Now, have some Titegroup I want to use up so trying that for 9 mm. Loads are 4.6-4.7 grains of Titegroup. Hodgdon website says for 9 mm 115 gr JHP (I’m using FMJ – they don’t have FMJ data) 4.5 to 4.8 grains, COL 1.125
Same handguns (Sig P228 and Sig P365), same 115 grain 9 mm FMJ bullets from Montana Gold, same Federal small pistol primers, same Dillon XL650 loading machine, same finished cartridge length of 1.137, range pick-up brass fired, reloaded, fired unknown number of times but processed and loaded same way as I always do. After getting a couple of strings with the failure-to-extract problem, tried some of my reloads that had been made with Win231. No problems at all. Went back to the Titegroup rounds, and had at least one, but sometimes several failure to extract. Went back to the Win 231 loads, no problems, etc. Had another person shoot the loads and he had exact same results as me: FTE with some of the Titegroup loads, and none with the Win 231 loads.
No chrono owned or available.
Failure to extract with 9 mm Titegroup: not enough powder, or too much?
I just started making 9 mm rounds with Titegroup and had several rounds each mag that the fired round stayed in the chamber, did not extract, and thus jammed up the firing string. Easily extracted each of these cases by dropping mag and just hand cycling the slide. None of them stuck or were hard to open the slide, etc. Wondering if I am using too small of a load, or too high of a load?
DETAILS:
Long time reloader of 9 mm (75,000+ rounds) previously always using Win231 / HP38.
Now, have some Titegroup I want to use up so trying that for 9 mm. Loads are 4.6-4.7 grains of Titegroup. Hodgdon website says for 9 mm 115 gr JHP (I’m using FMJ – they don’t have FMJ data) 4.5 to 4.8 grains, COL 1.125
Same handguns (Sig P228 and Sig P365), same 115 grain 9 mm FMJ bullets from Montana Gold, same Federal small pistol primers, same Dillon XL650 loading machine, same finished cartridge length of 1.137, range pick-up brass fired, reloaded, fired unknown number of times but processed and loaded same way as I always do. After getting a couple of strings with the failure-to-extract problem, tried some of my reloads that had been made with Win231. No problems at all. Went back to the Titegroup rounds, and had at least one, but sometimes several failure to extract. Went back to the Win 231 loads, no problems, etc. Had another person shoot the loads and he had exact same results as me: FTE with some of the Titegroup loads, and none with the Win 231 loads.
No chrono owned or available.
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