Fair offer for a used rifle...

[tube_ee]

Also cross-posted to TFL

Remington 700, .22-250, Bausch & Lomb 8-24x scope.

I haven't seen or handled said rifle yet. Of course, gun-shop dude said it's got a great looking stock, has been free-floated, and has a very light (~1.5, he sez) trigger... but that's all over the phone.

I've got no knowledge as to Remingtons, so what would be a top-tier price, and what would detract therefrom, and by how much?

For your average used-gun-in-a-gun-shop, as described, what would you consider a fair offer?

Thanks,
--Shannon

 

[Runningman]

Not much information on the rifle here. Condition? + Remington made a lot of variations of 700, 22-250 over the years. Sporter barrel, heavy barrel, 22' 24' 26' barrel, wood stock, laminated stock, plastic stock, synthetic stock aluminum bedding block (HS precision style)?

 

[SwampWolf]

"Free-floated" stock and "very light" trigger make me suspect some home "gunsmithing" shenanigans going on. Buyer beware!

 

[tube_ee]

More info...

So far as I have it yet... going to look at the gun tomorrow.

Model 700, wood (presumably walnut) Monte Carlo stock, checkered... sounds like maybe a BDL. Year unknown. Sporter-profile barrel.

--Shannon

 

[tube_ee]

Good point here:

"Free-floated" stock and "very light" trigger make me suspect some home "gunsmithing" shenanigans going on. Buyer beware!

How would one know? On a trigger, if it's just been adjusted down to a light weight, that's no biggie, as it would be reversible. An aftermarket trigger would be not unheard of on a used rifle, and could well be a plus. Doing goofy things like filing sear notches and such would be bad (unless done by someone with a clue), but how can the buyer tell?

Are there issues with floating barrels on Remingtons? Assuming (as I've not looked at the rifle yet) that the person who did it was not a complete butterfingers with the sandpaper, and didn't gouge the wood or do unpleasant things to the wood/metal fit. Are the non-cosemtic problems to be looked for in this area?

Especially with a firearm with the kind of aftermarket that the Model 700 has, how is a buyer to determine what's good, indifferent, or dangerous?

Thanks,

--Shannon

--Shannon

 

[tube_ee]

OK, a bit more info

Date code is DA, so likely 1980.

Trigger is a wide blade, with vertical ribbing, "looks kind of like a Smith target trigger", per gunshopguy.

--Shannon

 

[Jim Watson]

Pro: B&L scope.
Maybe: The trigger could be a Canjar, none better at the time.
Con: A used .22-250 is going to have some percentage of its accurate barrel life shot up. Anybody putting on an expensive scope, replacement or finely adjusted trigger, and free floating the barrel was probably a shooter. 10% used? or 90% used? Your guess is as good as mine unless the previous owner kept a shot by shot record and it is included with the rifle.

 

[MutinousDoug]

I'm in the Jim Watson boat.
If you can't determine throat erosion, you might be looking at a well worn barrel? That, on a gun otherwise ready to shoot really well.
I understand that .22-250's is a hard cartridge on a barrel but I bet a number of them don't get shot much.
Condition is everything.
HTH Doug

 

[tube_ee]

How to determine throat erosion?

Rifling condition is pretty obvious, but are we talking about something that can be estimated with a flashlight and a magnifying glass, or is it a total crapshoot?

I did get some Blue Book numbers from another dealer...

700 BDL .22-250: 95% 425 / 98% 530 / 100% 725

700 ADL .22-250: 95% 300 / 98% 375 / 100% 475

Used scopes seem to be worth whatever you can get for 'em... so add 100 bucks or so the the ranges above.

Seem reasonable?

--Shannon

 

[X-Rap]

My rule of thumb is small calibers are usually more valuable than large and given the high power scope and its quality I say $300-375 for rifle and $100-150 for scope. Not many yrs ago $400 would have been the max for the package. Never pay more than you think you can sell for unless it is new and you just gotta have it now.

 

[cal74]

Still allot of unknown info.

Does it have a floor plate?

Sights on the barrell, no sights?

I would think the gun shop (dude) should be able to tell you what the rifle actually is and than it's a heck of allot easier to know what it's worth.

 

[fireman 9731]

I think $400-500 is a fair price for a nice remmy 700 with a decent scope. But like what has been said before, condition is everything!

 

[rangerruck]

the scope is the same as the bushy 4200 series, but worth more for the Bausch name printed on it; that is another 300 bucks for the scope alone.

 

[codybrown]

I have been watching a couple or remmy bdl's on gunbroker, and a .308 just sold for $725. I'm still watching a 22-250 and it's at $450 with 5+ days left. I would say $600 is a good price on a heavy barreled BDL in good shape with a scope of decent quality.

 

[tube_ee]

Say the rifle today...

It's an ADL, condition is what I'd call "used but well-cared for"...

A few shallow dings in the stock, and the finish is worn right above the bolt-handle notch.

Bore looks good, rifling complete, no crown wear, chamber looks good.

Scope is actually a 6-24, no visible flaws in the glass, free from dents, etc. No way to know if it holds zero, of course.

Blue book sez 95% = 300, 98% = 375 for just the rifle.

It's tagged at 599, which is too high, I think. It's not a consignment piece.

I'm thinking 450 - 500 is fair...

What say ya'll?

--Shannon

 

[SwampWolf]

From your description and the fact that it is an ADL, IMO $600.00 is not only too much, it is way too much. That said, the one caveat in this case is the scope: if it is in perfect condition or close to, one could make the argument that it is worth $300.00 or so alone. If it were me, the only way I would bite on this deal is if I could either shoot it first or could return it without penalty if I shot it after the purchase and if I could buy it for not much more than $450.00 or so.