Fake slientcer, why?

[22/22mag]

I recived a gun catalog today and in it was adds for fake silencers/suppressor's .Whats the use of a fake supressor? Pretent you are a secret agent ? Anybody know ?

 

[BerettaNut92]

Because chicks dig them?

 

[stv]

To look tactical?

I, myself, don't see the point other than to fill the manufacturer's pockets.

 

[Chuck Jennings]

It's grooovy baby!!

 

[Kodiak AK]

Ever shot one of the Semi Auto Cobray Mac pistols?

 

[c_yeager]

Also when permanently attached they can help to bring a rifle barrel over the requisite 16" without a tax stamp or in non-NFA states.

 

[otomik]

to get rid of muzzle flash.
http://www.gungarage.com/beretta_comp.htm
take a look suppose i wanted to do some handgun hunting with my Beretta 96. i know this is difficult with forty short and wimpy so i decide to get as much barrel as possible. so i get a extra-long barrel that looks like a suppressor so it doesn't look as goofy.

Pretent you are a secret agent ?

the walther ppk with all it's problems is still selling and at inflated prices.

 

[shu]

I'd never get a fake silencer. It would make the gun too long to conceal, and then I'd have no use for my CCW badge.

 

[Suomipoika]

Fake silencers what they will come up next

 

[cratz2]

Because chicks dig them?

Yeah, because they make your... barrel... look bigger than it really is.

 

[KpEng16]

A friend of mine put a fake one on his Baretta Storm. Just for looks I guess.

 

[Mr. Mysterious]

Fake silencers what they will come up next

10 round magazines for AR-15s that look like 30 rounders.

 

[Smoke]

So the BATF can hassle you...

Agent: "Do you have a the proper papers to own suppressed weapons?"

Joe: "It's a fake"

Agent: "do you have the documentation to prove it's fake"

Joe: "Huh?"

Agent: "we will be confiscating this weapon pending our investigation, do not expect it back in good condition. DO not expect it back at all with out a lengthy criminal trial. Do expect us to confiscate all your other weapons as evidence. What? you have more than two? We call that an arsenal. That ups the charges to suspected terrorist. You will be charge with a felony. We have more money to prosecutre than you have for defense. We will win. We will have your guns. SWEET!



Seems kinda silly to me.

Smoke

 

[CJ]

I'd bet on appearances. Why do people want to buy certain weapons that 'look evil' when there are better, more accurate versions that have features that haven't been banned? Does a pistol grip make a weapon more deadly than a monte carlo stock? No, but it has a look that many like to have. I think the same reasoning is applied to silencers. They want the look, but not the 'tax' for having a real one.

 

[sturmruger]

FAKE

Have you ever looked into manufacturing your own silencer? The hardest part is threading it and getting it attached to the gun properly. I think they are selling these fakes so that people can install the baffles and turn them into a real silencer. I have heard of guys that will put a silencer together when they are at the range by themselves and then take it all apart for the trip home. When you buy fake silencer over 50% of the work is done. The other 50% is a simple and easy to figure out. I have never put together a silencer, but if I did feel like breaking the law that is how I would do it.

 

[Kodiak AK]

sturmruger
That is interesting , but my friends on his Cobray is solid alluminum except for where the round travels thru it .

 

[sturmruger]

I have done allot of reading on how silencers are made. You can make them out of solid metal or you can make them out of rubber baffles or even plastic. I think with the fake silencers most people would cut open the end and insert the baffles into the can. Then you could remove the baffles for cleaning if needed.

I have been drooling over one of those ruger Mk IIs with the integral silencer. It looks just like a bull barrel Mk II but has the supressing baffles in the barrel. Until you shoot it, it looks like any other Ruger.

 

[Kenneth Lew]

I think they are selling these fakes so that people can install the baffles and turn them into a real silencer.

That is bs. If the fake can in any way can accept baffles, the ATF will pounce on them for unregistered suppessor tubes. ATF is not stupid. All of the fake suppressors I've seen were solid chunk of metal.

Kenneth Lew

 

[Diggler]

Smoke

So the BATF can hassle you...

That's easy. When the BATF comes to your house and starts hassling you about it, just jump back and fire several rounds in the air.

That should show them that it's legal, right?

 

[Dr.Rob]

Faske tubes are WELDED shut and in no way shape or form moderate the sound of a muzzle blast, even on those that can be shot through.

I have a couple of them, bought BOTH for photo shoots/film props.

Mine are made of tubes welded AROUND tubes. IE there is no way to just "saw it apart" , add baffles and make it work. All they really are is a big heavy muzzle extension.

 

[Amish_Bill]

The extended, threaded barrel would make it much easier to put a Vortex or Birdcage on a Beretta 92.

The whole fake can?? Maybe if I just absolutely, positively had to shoot 45 Super from a lightweight .45.....????

 

[Black Majik]

LOL, reminds me of fake Front Mount Intercoolers for turbocharged cars. It "supposedly" actually serves a purpose, its a air filter made to look like a FMIC.

 

[sturmruger]

More BS

I wasn't saying that a fake would be easy to turn into a real suppressor, but it would be a whole lot easier to start a suppressor project with a fake can then by starting with nothing but steel tubing. Last I checked they do make saws that will cut through metal. With a well equipped shop anyone could cut open a fake suppressor and install the proper components to make it a functioning suppressor. Since no one here has actually cut open a fake can I guess we will never know for sure if it is possible.

I personally would rather spend the money to buy a functioning suppressor then to try illegally make some rigged up contraption. They really don’t cost all that much. The suppressor is $200 and the feds get $200. I think I would buy a .22 caliber suppressor so I could mount it on all of my .22s.

 

[Joe Demko]

With a well equipped shop anyone could cut open a fake suppressor and install the proper components to make it a functioning suppressor.

With a well equipped shop, it would actually be easier to make the supressor starting with steel tubing. It isn't as simple as "open can and insert baffles" if you want something that is actually going to work and not blow up in your face. All of the fakes I've ever seen were either solid chunks of metal or the welded-tube-in-a-tube type construction. With the latter, you'd have to _at the very least_drill a series of holes through the inner tube and then also pack the outer tube with some type of baffle material and then weld the whole mess back together. The final result wouldn't be likely to function very well, nor for very long. Starting with a well equipped shop, it would be easier to construct a real silencer according to the plans that are readily available from various publishers.

 

[Jim K]

Actually, I have a better idea. Unless your state bans them, why not just buy a real suppressor? It is not that much trouble and worth the money if you want to have fun with one.

Jim