Falling out of tree stand

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Ok, I'll have to admit that I don't wear a harness in my tree stand nor do I pull my gun up with a rope. While climbing the stand the harness is ineffective and once I get in position, maybe 10 to 15 feet up, I lock the sitting portion of the stand to the tree using the strap provided with my Summit Viper. I also don't have a round chambered in my rifle and have it slung across my back. I think this is preferable to pulling my gun up either barrel first pointed at my head or butt first so I can knock the scope around on the way up. What exactly is the prefered method and why and how do most tree stand accidents happen?
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I hear you....

after falling out of several climbing stands I gave up on them and went back to using Ladder Stands, Box, or Ground Blinds. I am too old, big, and clumsy to use those things. When I did use them I kept my gun in my soft side case then pulled it up still in the case.
 
If you fall and land on the rifle that is strapped across your back you are in for some hard times. I would recommend that you use the harnesses and pull your gun up with a rope. If your scope mount is sensitive enough that it might be knocked out being pulled up the tree I would suggest you look at the Leupold dual dovetail mount system. You have to break it to knock it out, and that would be feat in itself.
 
I believe the thing with tree stands is just being comfortable climbing. I'm not a climber. Never was as a kid, nor an adult. Some guys practically run up those ladders. Personally, I removed one of the 4' sections and only use two. Making it 8' off the ground. I climb slowly and carefully. I use a handgun in a crossdraw holster, so I haven't had to pull up my weapon off the ground. Besides, stand hunting is too permit. You're locked into one spot. I'm more of a mover...still hunter.
 
I bow hunt out of a 22' treestand and gun hunt from a 17' one. I use a safety harness for both and pull my bow and gun up with rope. It's a PITA sometimes. If I fell out of a tree and couldn't work because I was too lazy or uncomfortable to wear my harness, that would be pretty stupid wouldn't it?

I would GUESS that most people fall climbing in or out or their stands. This doesn't make it any less important to wear a harness when you're in your stand.
 
I have a Summit Viper as well. I use it less and less every year....due to to a combination of laziness and fear I guess. That top unit (seat) will kill you if you're not real careful....particularly on smooth barked trees. When I do use it, I don't even attempt to secure the seat unless I'm belted to the tree. The harness is a PITA.... but nothing compared to living the rest of your life in a wheelchair.
A few years ago I hunted out of a giant (condo) stand that a friend of mine had built. The floor was about 6' x 6'. I didn't even bother to bring a safety harness with me. I climbed up in the dark...set my bow down...got comfortable ...and leaned against the 2x4 railing. The railing popped off and fell to the ground....I teetered on the edge, with my arms rotating so fast that heat was generated LOL. I didn't fall....but much more heat was generated when I saw my buddy. NEVER trust someones elses stand!!
 
After using a climber 1 time I bought a ladder stand. It has worked very well. Part of the comfort of the rig is the very large platform you have to sit on. It's big enough to put a swivel chair on but I never have.

I think many tree stand injuries are caused by people falling asleep and then falling out. I know from experience I can get comfortable enough in mine to nodd off and that is why I use the safety harness.

A few years back in NC I came on a fellow that had what looked almost like a hammock slung from a limb he hunted from. You basically kind of layed in the thing. Seemed like it would have been very safe once you got her set up.
I could never have stayed awake in that kind of outfit.

S-
 
A frined of mine claims that most of the deer he's taken, were killed within minutes of waking up. I guess he doesn't snore. :)
 
I've hunted out of a climber for several years. The problem with ladder stands is that you can't tote 'em around with you wherever you want to go, and I sure as heck am not leaving my stand up on gov't land for someone else to take. Arkansas law states that you can't put up a "permenant" stand up on gov't land anyhow, and yes, they do consider ladder stands permenant. A climber is the only way for me to hunt out of a stand.

As far as a safety harness goes, I don't use one either. My stand didn't come with one, and I know I should probably use one, but I don't have one. I climb the tree in my stand with my gun slung over my back just like you do.
 
I bow hunt out of a treestand and always use a harness. In addition to falling out of the stand while asleep (which happened to a friend of mine and cost him a broken arm) I'd be concerned about just stepping off the edge. I prefer to stand up to shoot if possible, and I'm afraid I won't be paying much attention to where my feet are and might inadvertantly step off.

I'm not worried at all about the climb up, it's once I'm there that I want to be careful.
 
You should always wear a harness/belt.

I fell out of a tree once. I was about 12 feet up, clearing limbs out of a tree to be cut. Had a chainsaw in my hand. Limb I was standing on broke. Landed flat on my back on the frozen ground (lucky the saw didn't hit me). Fractured four vertebrae, what they called a compression fracture, where the vertebrae are crushed together.
The spine was crushed together enough that I lost almost an inch of height.
Spent the next couple of months in a lot of pain.
Doc said I was one of the lucky ones who recover quickly, some take two or three times as long. I was back at work four months later. I was 25 at the time, almost 25 years ago.
I consider myself very lucky.
 
A good safety harness can also be a big plus in other ways. For one, it allows you to lean out much further from the tree (just be sure it is securely attached to the tree first LOL -I almost took a plunge once when I didn't hook it properly in the dark), and it can be used as a deer drag (if nothing else...to give your hands a break for a few minutes).
 
From a local TV station:
By Roslyn Anderson
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Two hunters died after falling from tree stands last week and Mississippi wildlife officials are urging the use of safety harnesses.

Neither hunter was wearing a harness when they took the falls.

Deer hunters headed to the woods this season would be wise to carry safety harnesses with their tree stands.

Mississippi Department of Wildlife Fisheries and Parks officials say five tree stand falls have been reported since October first.

Two resulted in fatalities.

Forty three year old Rudy Walker of Monticello died Thursday night after falling 16 feet from a tree.

Earlier that day 22 year old Christopher Spradley of Jones county died from injuries suffered in a fall at a hunting club in Jasper county.

Major Steve Adcock, Director of Educational Services with the Department of Wildlife Fisheries and Parks said, "A recent statistic said a grown man falling 12 feet is going about 25 miles per hour when he hits the ground."

Adcock says safety harness use is imperative.

He said, "We also had another incident Saturday in which a 64 year old male fell from his stand and hung from his foot until around 2 o'clock in the morning until he was found."

That hunter survived, but keep in mind over 60% of deer hunting accidents in the state involve tree stands.

Adcock added, "Usually the person is either ascending or descending the tree. We have had instances where a person has fallen asleep. Typically they are not wearing a safety harness."

Statistics indicate 80% of all tree stand incidents in Mississippi involve homemade wooden stands.

Experts say use a good stand, a soft bark tree and always wear a safety harness.

Gun season starts November 20th and the agency reminds hunters that carelessness can lead to tragedy.
 
Safety Harness

I hope you got good disability or life insurance. Sooner or later you are gonna need. Falling out of a tree stand is like having a car wreck- you never plan on it but no matter how safe you are it will happen.

Lvl1trauma
 
I wear my harness when using my climber.
I just keep the harness's belt around the tree somewhat loose and shimmy it up as I go.
I have tested it before, even with a lot of slack it will stop my fall.

I have a piece of paracord that I tie to my hanrness and my rifle.
When I get to where I want, I pull the harness belt tight aorund the tree, take a seat, and pull my unloaded rifle up.
It's no big deal once I got used to the routine.
 
bp_cowboy said:
after falling out of several climbing stands I gave up on them and went back to using Ladder Stands, Box, or Ground Blinds. I am too old, big, and clumsy to use those things. When I did use them I kept my gun in my soft side case then pulled it up still in the case.

One of my early tree stands was a climbing stand that didn't bite into the tree. Ecological, and all. It was below freezing and ice was on the tree. I got up quite a ways and hit a section of tree that was frozen. That's all she wrote. I couldn't stop my descent. Hit hard, too. Don't much have any use for stands, anymore.
 
The closest I ever came to killing myself...

While hunting was when I whacked a nice 8pt from my tree stand...up about 20 feet in a big oak...I got so excited I just about walked right off the platform! I went to a harness right after that. I'd rather "suffer" the inconvienient safety strap than have to watch the "Outdoor Channel" from a a wheelchair.

Please be safe!

Bob
 
The most common tree stand accident is falling off either by falling asleep and falling off or stepping off into thin air, thinking the stand is bigger than it is or just trying to get around to get the deer.

The only accident I ever witnessed was an idiot that put his stand up in a dead tree, because "the steps screwed in easier." I told him the tree was dead and he better get his stand out. As he went up to get the stand at about 8' up the step he was on gave away and down he went. No safety belt/harness but no gear either, pre season. He was only bruised, but it could have turn out much differnt.

Climbing with a gun on, long gun or handgun, is just something "soft" to land on if you were to fall and could do more damage than the fall alone.

The worst tree stand accident I ever heard of was a young man that had dropped his shotgun from a tree stand and looked over the edge as it fell butt first onto the grond. It fired on impact, killing the guy.
 
I've been climbing trees to bowhunt deer for 25 years and I shudder to think of some of the chances I took and got away with.
I now use a GOOD QUALITY full harness with "lineman's rings at the hips and a top tether. Whatever the stand, climber, or step system I use (don't use ladder stands) I use the linemans belt at the waist until I encounter a limb or need to transition to the stand. I then attach the top tether before loosening the waist strap. Never free from the tree unless my feet are on the ground.
Why would anybody take chances?
 
you shouldn't be scared to pull your gun up. Logically, it's a lot safer than carrying it up. Provided it's unloaded, it's one situation where you can break a safety rule. But I know what you mean about not liking the process.
 
Major Steve Adcock, Director of Educational Services with the Department of Wildlife Fisheries and Parks said, "A recent statistic said a grown man falling 12 feet is going about 25 miles per hour when he hits the ground."

That's not a statistic, it's a physics question!

It's actually more like 19mph (18.8ish)

My algebra is rusty, and I didn't work it out on paper, but you dont' hit 25mph until you're 21 feet in the air.
 
Isn't it Distance = 1/2 times G times the Time, squared? "G", of course, is 32.16.

I solved for the Time; 0.82 seconds. This gives a velocity at the ground of 14.6 ft/sec. Now, 30 mph = 44 ft/sec. 14.6 divided by 44 = 1/3.

Ten miles per hour, if falling from twelve feet.

Art
 
Art Eatman said:
Isn't it Distance = 1/2 times G times the Time, squared? "G", of course, is 32.16.
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Ten miles per hour, if falling from twelve feet.
Art - That would be the average velocity. Start at zero, hit at 20, and your average will be 10mph. GigaBuist has it correct.
 
I just bought a harness for my grandson a couple days ago. $30.00. Good strong reinforced, double stiched webbing. Put your arms into it like a jacket and cinch it up in front. Webbing goes down and cinches up around both thighs. Safety line attaches to a loop between the shoulders and goes around the tree. If you fall, you'll wind up head up and supported at the shoulders and hips.

Better than a wheelchair or a casket.
 
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