Favorite answers to questions never asked

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So what is your favorite firearm answer to a question that was never asked?

Trounds? .357 Sig? .45 GAP?

There are plenty of them which are answers to problems that just aren't there and were never asked.

So what's your favorite?

EDIT: Not just rounds, anything gun related in general. The rounds are just what popped into my mind.
 
XM8, OICW, Gyro Jet, Trounds, and the Liberator, the only gun that can be made faster than it can be reloaded. though it served a purpose

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oh, and the BATFE
 
The G11 project and caseless ammo. Although caseless is pretty practical for military use, in some ways.
 
most of mine as you may have guessed have to do with ammo

.45 GAP. IMO Glock just wanted its name on a round and GAP serves no usefull purpose. Shorter? Doesn't really help anything IMO for the round to be a tad shorter.

.357 SIG. Agian, no real need for it.

Then you have all the short magnums and who knows how many other rifle magnums to come around in recent years. None of them really gains anything over more traditional deer rounds.

And trounds are just funny looking.

I do like the liberator though. Something about the face of the guy expecting weapons to be dropped to him and his freedom fighters cracking open the case picking a liberator out and going "*** is this pos" sorry something about the facial expression to that ammuses me.
 
The shoot around corners version of the Mp-44/STG 44... created because someone forgot to put a machine gun on a tank.
 
Girl with a gun, either blonde or brunette...but not redhead...they are too temperamental, and bald ones need not apply. And they need to have semi-auto, perferably Colt 45, or .357 Python if revolver.
 
1. Called Thinking out of the box ...

2. You don't want to know

3. You want me to tell you the truth - or what you want to hear and believe?

4. What something is marked and what is really is - are not always the same thing.

5. 28 gauge Slug

6. Often folks expect one to use strong hand, they watch the strong hand, I drew from weak side first.

7. I fell down the stairs

8. Playing with the dogs

9. Very loud!

10. Did not feel very good - in fact it hurt like hell.

;)
 
My candidate is the automatic revolver (Webley-Fosbery, Mateba). A non-solution to a non-problem.

In spite of a lot of hoopla (and old fashioned BS), I can't find that the Liberator ever served any real purpose. It certainly was ever used as intended, that is dropped in occupied countries. Some were given by Americans to native fighters in the Philippines and other places in SE Asia, but there is scant indication that any were ever actually used against the enemy. Based on an idea in a work of fiction, reports of their use seem to also be fictional. They were almost all destroyed by dumping in the ocean long before the war ended.

The .45 GAP and .357 SIG do have rationale. Both allow greater power in guns built on 9mm platforms, reducing the need for development of larger platforms.

Most of the "short magnum" rifle cartridges have little use except to get gunzine space and sell the public something new. Saving weight in the rifle is pointless, since the recoil is increased.

Jim
 
Dr. Rob said mine, the German curved barrel machinegun.
Also the G11, although I do find the caseless ammunition principle really cool it just never went any farther than the prototype phase.
The OCSW beast that they are trying to develop to replace the Mk.19
The DREAD which i find particularly ridiculous http://www.military.com/soldiertech/0,14632,Soldiertech_DREAD,,00.html
those anemic .22LR birdshot cartidges
that horrible Japanese pistol from WW2 with the sear on the outside
and then there's this thing:
http://securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/0600/601.htm
which is more of a joke really
 
A muzzlebrake on a semiauto .223 AR. For that matter, putting a big honking brake on an AR to get it over 16" :rolleyes:
 
Non-interchangeable ballistic twins, the .300 WSSM and .300 RSAUM.

Most proprietary cartridges, such as those from Lazzeroni, Dakota, etc. (Note that Dakota just filed for Chapter 11.)

Not one, but two .17 rimfire cartridges.

Firearms with "DON'T BE AN IDIOT" warning labels engraved on the side. (Ruger, S&W, take heed!)

"Tactical" . . . a label used to justify a minimum 30% price increase on whatever item it's attached to.

"Safer guns and safer bullets." Clintonista Jocelyn Elders.
 
My candidate is the automatic revolver (Webley-Fosbery, Mateba). A non-solution to a non-problem.
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My observation is that it's pretty typical of scientists and engineers to ask "can we" when they really should ask "should we" or "would this serve a viable purpose". Some things are just so ludicrous, yet they'll go to the trouble to turn it out anyway and be recognized as great engineers.

Liberator pistols... I heard they were as much for propaganda as anything. I saw the segment they did on American Rifleman TV... they said the average service life was four shots before the thing started getting stress cracks... not something you want to bet your life on. But the main purpose was supposedly to make the enemy wonder how many more were floating around out there.

I agree about .45GAP... it don't fill any gap I can think of. I'll stick with the Colt and ACP rounds for revolver and auto, respectively.
 
The M16.

"Our soldiers are too weak to carry a rifle"

"Shall we train them harder, make sure they can handle it?"

"Hell no, let's spend millions of dollars developing a lighter rifle"

:p
 
The "Safety Warning Novel" stamped on most modern USA made handguns...

Maybe in the muzzle crown of those should be stamped something like...

"Danger, Will Robinson! Lead alloys at very high speeds exit here" ***



***With credits & applogies to the 'Lost In Space' TV series
 
.600 NE pistol.

the thing can't even have a full load, hell, at half load you can't hang on to it.


Oh, and the whole "Front towards Enemy" on claymore mines.
 
"Strange how much human progress and achievement comes from contemplation of the irrelevant." - Scott Kim

There are fine lines between doing something to see what can be done (and learn & progress from it), doing somthing just for marketing reasons, answering a question that wasn't asked, and answering a stupid question.

The automatic revolver was "see what can be done". The idea was tried, it worked, it didn't help, progress deemd that a dead end and continued elsewhere.

The .45GAP is mostly just marketing reasons. Yes it gets .45ACP power into a standard Glock platform - but only because it's cheaper for Glock to have one platform than two.

Extra-long flash suppressors just to make the 16" limit answers a question that wasn't asked. No legitimate question has an answer "a flash suppressor over 5 inches long".

"Double-action-only" Mossberg 590DA shotguns (to wit, a perfectly good shotgun with a stupidly heavy trigger) is an answer to a stupid question. Rochester NY police were required to switch to it after a suspect in a drug raid was accidentally shot; the overseeing council asked "how to we make it hard for police to fire their guns", and the answer was a 14+ pound trigger.
 
a tround was basically a new type of round using a triangular piece of platic as the case. The gun was kinda weird to but I cant think off the top of my head what it was called, also an answer to no ones question.

If I remember correctly trounds go for about 40 bucks....a pop.
 
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