Favorite Sight Configuration

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I am with Ken, A Gold bead front and a good wide notch rear. I am trying to figure out how I can get Jim to put a gold bead on my S&W 13. He said he could do it but it will cost a bit. The "cost a bit" is the hard part.
 
Rear sight should be an all-black 'U-notch,' about 0.16"-0.18" wide. The body of the sight should be cut away as much as possible

Front sight should be a Partridge style, either plain black or a fiber-optic insert (I go back and forth.) Ideal width on a full size pistol is about 0.100".

A dedicated fighting gun should have orange and green Tritium vials in the 'Straight Eight' configuration.

-C

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Thru the years I’ve experimented with different configurations. What I’ve settled on for the time being is a Novak front night sight and a 10-8 plain black “U”-notch rear sight.
 
Tried out XS Big Dots for a month and enjoyed them, but wasn't in love for what I wanted to do. I have Warren/S rear Competition sights (black only) with red F/O front blade coming In Thursday to instal.
 
I have Warren/S rear Competition sights (black only) with red F/O front blade coming In Thursday to instal.
I've shot this combo on several Sig 226s and 229s...they are very fast and accurate, I'll think you'll be very happy with them
 
Thanks! I'm getting into USPSA and this was the obvious choice ;) (as a head shot with the big dot was...well....interesting at 20yrd)

I am super intrigued by the gold bead!

How would someone rate a true gold ball vs F/O?
 
I have had the Big Dot--did not like it at all.
Had the Straight-8--did not like that either.
Also the fiber optic front--works great outside in bright light, otherwise, no thank you.

I think I will stick with 3-dot night sights until I find something that works better for me.
 
How would someone rate a true gold ball vs F/O?
The F/O will be brighter in sunlight and will have less reflection...since it transmits light

I think I will stick with 3-dot night sights until I find something that works better for me.
You owe it to yourself to try out the plain black rear
 
In what situation do people prefer the gold? Or is it just a personal preference as a "good in all" category but not the "best" in any specific category (night-tritium, day-FO)
 
The gold bead pre-dated the contrast sight most folks take for granted...be they the original red insert (rectangular) or white dot. They were to plain black sights, for use during the day, what F/Os are today.

The choice had always been gold, or ivory, bead for a round aiming point or a red insert for a square one to compliment the white outlined rear notch. The round bead actually comes to the handgun via the rifle where it was popularly used with a rear ghost ring or express blade. It is actually the forerunner of the optical red dot sight. It traded accuracy for speed...and was originally intended for large game animals at close range and moving quickly (usually toward you).

Current F/O front sights, if used correctly, are not an aiming point. They are designed to draw your eye to the front blade. You should still be aiming by aligning the front blade in the rear notch..

Tritium front sights are designed to be used the same way, it isn't an aiming point. It gives you a better idea of where the front sight is in dim lighting conditions...you have to remember that, usually, when there isn't enough light to see your sights, there isn't enough light to identify your target

I'm not sure if that answered your question or not
 
Ya know, it might sound crazy... But my favorite "sight configuration" (if you can call it that) is the "trench" sight on my Colt New Agent.

It's not the gun I shoot the best with, but I sure do think that setup is cool. I'd also like to try out an ASP someday, if I could ever find one.

Other than that, I prefer a white 3 dot setup. Night sights are a plus, but not required.
 
It's not the gun I shoot the best with, but I sure do think that setup is cool. I'd also like to try out an ASP someday, if I could ever find one.

Other than that, I prefer a white 3 dot setup. Night sights are a plus, but not required.
I'm slightly tickled by the fact that these two sighting systems are based on completely opposite philosophies of how to aim a handgun
 
That's very true. Really I just like the concept of "gutter" or "trench" sights, and I also like the way the New Agent looks.

But when it comes to making neat little groupings in paper, I'm much better with traditional sights.
 
Three dots on all my combat guns. Target guns it's hard to beat the light-pipe sights like Tru Glo's and so on. Any light and they shine like a billboard.
 
Want to follow. I currently have xs big dots on my 26. I don't really like them. Thinkinng of changing them out. I like novak three dots it what u have on most of my pistols. Just realized I shoot my revolvers more accurately and they have plain blades. I may look into that.
 
Just realized I shoot my revolvers more accurately and they have plain blades. I may look into that.
Everyone should go pick up a weapon at their local gun store that has plain black rears. It's amazing how well they work. Especially for those like me with vision that worsens with age, or astigmatism. Anything on the rear sight slows my ability to focus on the front sight. That big white "u" on the glock just flat out grabs my focus. Just blackening it with a sharpie makes a night and day difference for me.
 
Thlax said:
In what situation do people prefer the gold? Or is it just a personal preference as a "good in all" category but not the "best" in any specific category (night-tritium, day-FO)

There is no hard-and-fast rule. And so few people have shot a handgun with a gold beads these days, it’s become something of a forgotten system. Smith and Wesson still has – or had it available – as an optional upgrade on a few of their large-frame, competition-oriented revolvers. Back in the beginning and middle of the century S&W offered them on more models. It was not uncommon to find them on the front sights of men who carried a handgun for a living.

It’s really a matter of personal preference now. And you’ve got to find a ‘smith who has a source for the gold rods or the finished bead, and actually knows how to install one. Some use a finished part that has a head that's larger than the diameter of the rod. That style usually fills the front sight from edge to edge. I find that set-up makes the front sight vague and undefined. The style that Jim Garthwaite installs is smaller than the front sight blade, so it leaves the front sight well-defined while still having enough surface area to reflect light. I liked it the first time I saw what he was doing and shot one.


Several years ago a small group of well-experienced shooters spent a day on our indoor range testing out different sighting systems, in lighting conditions from dim to complete darkness. We each shot handguns with fiber optics, gold bead front sights, tritium systems, and plain black front-and-rear. We timed and scored shots objectively at a series of typical, defensive-shooting distances; and we also took note of our subjective impressions – as in, “I liked it and it felt fast; or I didn’t like it much and it felt _______”.

We found a couple of trends among us. In dim conditions none of the systems really stood out over the other. The fiber optics ceased offering any advantage. If there were any light available in the room, the gold bead front sight would pick it up and reflect it long after the fiber optics ceased. Nothing worked well with no backlight, the target in darkness, and dim light beyond the target.

Results using the tritium system were interesting. In conditions that approximated an overcast night to total darkness, nearly all of us posted a slower time compared to the sight systems that didn’t generate an artificial glow. And our subjective impressions were that the glowing tritium actually became a distraction to making quick shots. The darker we made the lights, the harder it became to see beyond the glow of the sights and make out the target. And we felt the urge to pause and align up the sights at very close distances, where it was completely unnecessary to make the hit.

The only one who didn’t suffer the extended times and the other negative, subjective impressions was a shooter who had many thousands of rounds downrange training in the dark using tritium sights. When we performed some drills to test very precise shooting in darkness, we did find that while slower, the tritium system provided for a greater deal of precision.


I’ve been exposed to a lot of the different sighting systems making the rounds. I prefer a plain black rear sight, and a gold bead installed in the front sight in a diameter smaller than the width of the blade over them all. I’ve seen fiber optics sights break. I don’t put anywhere near the amount of time shooting in the dark to overcome those disadvantages I mentioned earlier using tritium systems. And they also need replaced every decade.
 
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