FBI Agent Shoots Freezer in Casino

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Friday, August 29, 2003
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BARBARY COAST INCIDENT: Fine, damages paid in freezer shooting

Some say FBI agent got special treatment in case

By J.M. KALIL
REVIEW-JOURNAL





An FBI agent who fired his duty pistol into a Barbary Coast walk-in freezer while intoxicated has paid a $105 fine and thousands of dollars in damages to the Strip hotel to end the criminal case against him, officials said Wednesday.

Supervisory Agent John Hanson III, who remains under internal investigation by the FBI, paid Barbary Coast $12,507 on Aug. 8 for damages he caused when he fired his .45-caliber handgun into the freezer in May, court documents show.

Longtime observers of the local criminal justice system say Hanson, who was cited, but not arrested or jailed in connection with the shooting, received extremely favorable treatment from police and prosecutors compared to others who have committed similar crimes.

"If one of my clients did that, he would be in chains and shackles so quick, and he would be charged with a felony immediately," said James "Bucky" Buchanan, a veteran defense attorney who carries one of the Clark County Courthouse's heaviest criminal caseloads.

Although Hanson was taken into custody by casino security guards after the May 15 shooting, Las Vegas police officers summoned to the 1:30 a.m. incident decided not to arrest him.

Hanson was issued a citation for a misdemeanor charge of discharging a firearm. His gun was released to another agent who, like Hanson, was in town for an accounting seminar, said Special Agent Todd Palmer, a spokesman for the Las Vegas field office of the FBI.

Metropolitan Police Department officials acknowledged this week that most citizens who undertook similar actions would be arrested and jailed rather than issued a court summons.

"Nine times out of 10, we'll make an arrest for that charge," said officer Jose Montoya, a spokesman for the Metropolitan Police Department. "He probably was not arrested because he's an FBI agent and wasn't considered a threat."

District Attorney David Roger said Hanson's prosecution on a misdemeanor was appropriate, adding that he was not treated differently because he is a federal law enforcement officer.

Roger said the FBI agent at most could have faced a gross misdemeanor.

"This was a guy with no prior record at all," Roger said. "He paid a fine, and he paid restitution."

Buchanan, a former prosecutor with the district attorney's office, disagreed.

He has represented numerous defendants accused of shooting into structures.

"They've been charged with attempted murder, endangering people and a bunch of other charges," Buchanan said.

According to police reports, surveillance cameras captured Hanson pulling out his .45-caliber Glock pistol and firing two rounds into a walk-in refrigerator where cooks retrieve food for restaurants.

No one was inside when Hanson's two rounds punctured the front door.

Security guards took Hanson into custody, recovered two shell casings ejected by his weapon and summoned police.

Arriving officers confiscated Hanson's handgun and notified supervisors that the incident involved an FBI agent, the report states.

Hanson was unhelpful when officers attempted to interview him, the report indicates.

"The suspect stated he did not remember firing his weapon at any time," officer Boyse Francis wrote in the report.

Palmer, the local FBI spokesman, confirmed that Hanson does not recall the incident.

"He was drinking," Palmer said.

A patrol officer issued Hanson a citation and released him.

The report states that Hanson's sidearm and a copy of the videotape were released to the other FBI agent.

According to court documents, Hanson pleaded guilty June 26 to a single misdemeanor count of discharging a firearm.

The case was resolved after Hanson agreed to pay the Strip hotel for damages.

Federal authorities declined to say whether Hanson is on leave from his job instructing future agents at the FBI Academy in Quantico, Va.

With the internal investigation ongoing, it remains unclear what discipline Hanson will receive.

"It could run the gamut," Palmer said, adding that Hanson faces forced time off without pay at minimum.

The maximum punishment would be firing, Palmer said.



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What the h*** was he shooting at in the freezer?

And the FBI condones drinking while carrying your duty weapon? I don't think so. Something stinks of elitism here if the above is true.:fire:
 
Probably the freezer was advancing upon him while holding a cell phone in a threatening manner. The G-man feared for his life, and ... well, you know the rest. :rolleyes: Those things can happen when you're drinking.


"Nine times out of 10, we'll make an arrest for that charge," said officer Jose Montoya, a spokesman for the Metropolitan Police Department. "He probably was not arrested because he's an FBI agent and wasn't considered a threat."

District Attorney David Roger said Hanson's prosecution on a misdemeanor was appropriate, adding that he was not treated differently because he is a federal law enforcement officer.

Aren't the above two statements in direct contradiction to each other ?
 
Obviously the issue is:
We can't be trusted with firearms, only the police are responsible enough to have access to firearms.
As a private citizen I would imagine that I would not be allowed to carry my CCW into the casino at all (I am not sure of this and could be wrong).
If I did this, I would be arrested and taken in to custody, I would be fired from my job, my CCW would be revoked, my gun confiscated, I would be permenently 86ed from the casino, I would have to hire an attorney and just being set free would probably cost me everything I have. Odds are I could never own a gun again. I guarentee that every possible charge would be filed against me. This would be used by the media as THE reason why CCW is bad and why civilians should not be trusted with firearms.

FBI agent: $105 fine, no arrest.

"What the h*** was he shooting at in the freezer?"
He was in a drunken blackout and shot into the freezer for no reason.

Keep in mind that this isn't just an FBI agent, this is an instructor at the FBI Academy in Quantico.
 
All animals are equal... some animals are MORE equal... :uhoh:

A little action on the strip eh? Never a dull minute down there boyo.

What I really want to know is... did the two rounds of .45 stop the walk-in, kill it, or just grieviously wound it? Should the FBI change their thinking about proper loads for taking out a walk-in cooler and maybe switch to the newer S&W .500 round as it appears that a .45 acp just doesn't cut the mustard?

444, you're right, should you or I pull the same stunt... we'd being doing a little time somewhere.

I'd love to hear the banter in the FBI locker rooms/staff meetings etc about this poor schmoe. Some of those LEO types have a dark sense of humor. Maybe ya oughta post this on GlockTalks Coptalk forum and see how the good old boys therein respond. Probably not a good idea in retrospect.

Kinda reminds me of the story a few years back about Jeff Cooper's Scout rifle discharge in the Palace Station (oops).

Glad no one was hurt.

Lessons learned?

Something about drinking and carrying?

It pays to be FBI SAC of Walk-in psycho-ops.

big sigh

Adios
 
LISTEN!!! I'M TIRED OF ALL THIS COP BASHING!!! IF AN FBI AGENT (God bless their souls!) SAYS HE NEEDED TO SHOOT A FREEZER, THEN HE NEEDED TO SHOOT A FREEZER! THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME!!! AND ANYONE WHO SAYS OTHERWISE IS A COMMIE PINKO TRAITOR!!!!! :fire:
 
Palmer, the local FBI spokesman, confirmed that Hanson does not recall the incident.

"He was drinking," Palmer said.

[shaking head in amazement smilie]

Well, as drunken comedian Foster Brooks used to say, "I've got a good reason for being drunk tonight: I've been drinking all day."
 
Does anyone (other than Mr. FBI agent) know if the freezer stopping power of the .45 is superior to a .357?

Yes, I know that you can't necessarily go by the studies done on this, but still, if attacked by a dangerous freezer- one would like to be as prepared as possible.

:neener:
 
Another check in the .45 ACP column: It can stop a cold hearted attacker that stores body parts in it's freezer! :p
 
You are all forgetting the importance of shot placement. Even a .22 will stop a freezer if you hit the compressor. ^_^



Re the FBI agent: I wish I was a supercitizen who was above the average serfs. Must be nice.
 
One set of rules for the common peasants, and another set for the King's Men.

And people are amazed that there's a rift between LEOs and peasantry these days. When you have two sets of rules and laws, you have effectively created a two-class society. If one of these gets to bear arms while the other one doesn't, you have laid the groundwork for a new feudalism.

Back in feudal Japan, the Samurai enjoyed "kiri sute gomen", the right to kill and depart, over the unarmed lower class. A Samurai could kill a disrespectful peasant by the side of the road with impunity, and not face any legal sanctions. I hate to sound like a gloomy fatalist, but between stuff like this, Ruby Ridge, and Waco, we are fast approaching a state like that in this country as well.
 
Let's not forget the Medieval lord's right to take a peasant woman's virginity on her wedding night if he so chose.

Power will always be abused.
 
Well it's obvious to me why he's an instructor.

How many of us could be hammered beyond belief, and still manage to pull off a two shot stop on such a large threat? Heck, that freezer must have been bigger than an elephant.

It must have been such a terrifying experience, his mind went into defensive mode and repressed his memory of the entire affair.

I'm sooo glad this guy's out there protecting me.
 
I guess they didn't teach that guns & alcohol didn't mix when he went to Quantico. A stain on the agency, especially since he is a supervising agent. No doubt that had it been any of us, it would have been headline material, another call for restricting firearms ownership, and a lengthy time in the "cooler."
 
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