FBI arms DC Street Criminals

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Couple of M4s, couple of MP5s, pistol, 870 shotgun, ammunition, vests, radio, plus other toys. I bet this FBI agent was soooooooooooo embarassed! They probably made jokes about him losing these guns all day.
They do say that they really, really want them back.

SOUTHWEST WASHINGTON
7 Weapons Stolen From FBI Vehicle
SUV Randomly Broken Into Near Agent's Home; Reward Offered

By Allan Lengel
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, January 19, 2007; Page B03

Seven weapons, including two submachine guns, were stolen last weekend from an FBI agent's vehicle in Southwest Washington, the agency said yesterday.

Also taken were ammunition, a police radio, bullet-resistant vests, body armor and photography equipment, the FBI said.

The theft triggered an intensive search for the property and whoever took it. The FBI decided yesterday to seek the public's help by offering a $25,000 reward.

"We understand the seriousness of those weapons in the hands of untrained individuals," said Joseph Persichini Jr., head of the FBI's Washington field office. "We have employed significant resources and have been working on this since Saturday. We are doing everything possible to identify those responsible and recover the property."

The FBI vehicle belongs to a 35-year-old member of a special response team who was authorized to take it home. It was one of about 20 vehicles randomly vandalized in the 800 to 1100 blocks of Water Street between midnight Friday and 3 a.m. Saturday, according to D.C. police and the FBI.

A second bureau-issued car belonging to an agent at the FBI's headquarters also was vandalized, but nothing of importance was taken, authorities said. Both FBI agents live in the area and were issued vehicles to take home because of their assignments.

Persichini said one of the agents stored equipment in his vehicle, an SUV, because he has to be in a "ready position 24-7" as part of a special response team. He said that the vehicle had an alarm and that the equipment was kept in security containers that were broken into.

FBI officials will investigate to determine whether policies or procedures were violated, Persichini said, a step he described as routine.

FBI investigators are working with D.C. police; the U.S. Park Police; the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives; and the U.S. Marshals Service. As part of the inquiry, a security camera was being reviewed, Persichini said.

"We're making some progress," he said.

D.C. police, who were investigating the break-ins and other vandalism, notified the FBI about the theft about 6 a.m. Saturday, authorities said.

According to a police report, someone entered the agent's 2004 Chevy TrailBlazer after punching in the lock on the driver's door. The vehicle was parked in the marina parking lot in the 1000 block of Water Street.
 
DOH! This happened here in New MExico albeit on a smaller scale about a year ago where a BCSO SWAT guy started his vehicle in his driveway and left it running to warm up...the theif took the whole vehicle and when he realized it was a Sherrif SAWT truck, he abandoned it but not without taking the MP5, Shotgun, M4 Radio, and a vest and BCSO uniform and Jacket!

PS: they never from what we hear on TV recovered the weapons or other stollen items.
 
When I lived in S. Florida, the Miami PD managed to lose a dual M2 machine gun mount from the evidence lockup.

Only in Florida...
 
Just curious; but if a gunowner here posted that his locked and alarmed vehicle was broken into and the locked security containers inside the vehicle were broken into, would we characterize it as "Gunowners arm street criminals!"?
 
Bartholomew Roberts said:
Just curious; but if a gunowner here posted that his locked and alarmed vehicle was broken into and the locked security containers inside the vehicle were broken into, would we characterize it as "Gunowners arm street criminals!"?

Some would.
 
I doubt that any of us would be so irresponsible to store select-fire weapons inside a vehicle parked on the street overnight.

Have you missed the many discussions here about truck guns or car guns? The only reason people here wouldn't store select-fire weapons that way is because they cost so much money that nobody wants to lose them. However, there are lots of people who store their SKS or Nagant like that. Are you suggesting that it is only an irresponsible practice for certain firearms? OK if criminals grab your 12ga; but not OK if they grab an MP5?
 
Just curious; but if a gunowner here posted that his locked and alarmed vehicle was broken into and the locked security containers inside the vehicle were broken into, would we characterize it as "Gunowners arm street criminals!"?

I guarantee you that the NYPD, Chicago PD and Cleveland PD would... and regardless of where in the country it happened too.
 
I bet the agent decided that he wanted to keep his work toys for himself. "Oh no, chief, my car was robbed!" Kinda like taking home staplers and blank CDs from the office.
 
I think that the title is a little mis-worded every one make's mistakes.

If i had a MP5 i'm sure it would be in a vault in some bank but ofcourse i'm not FBI and i'm not likely to be doing what he would be doing, whatever that may be.

Lets just hope he leans his lesson gets better lock-up boxes for his truck or get a couple of bags so he can lug them in and out of his house at nite:)


I bet the agent decided that he wanted to keep his work toys for himself. "Oh no, chief, my car was robbed!" Kinda like taking home staplers and blank CDs from the office.

taking pens from work is one thing but MP5's is a whole other matter
 
About 15/16 years ago, when I lived in Los Angeles, a similar incident occurred.

Two FBI agents went into an all night "Denny's Restaurant" for chow, in the north San Fernando Valley (which was/is known as a rough area). These two guys left an H&K MP5 sub gun, an M16, their handguns (I think there were three), a 12 ga. Rem 870, their radios, their vests, mucho ammo, AND, GET THIS... even their FBI badges & idee, in their car.

After they'd eaten a wonderful meal , they came out to their car. It was still there, but......

Guess what?

Every single thing I listed above was gone. :scrutiny:

Don't know if they ever recovered the firearms... but it was a definite embarrassment for the FBI.

FWIW.

L.W.
 
I agree with Mr. Roberts. "FBI arms street criminals is a bit much"

If some liberal anti were to post an article saying "gun owners arm criminals" in regards to missing/stolen guns, everyone here would be in an uproar.

So take it down a notch.
 
I will concede that the title is misleading. However would it be safer to say that these highly trained agents are apparently clueless as to how to properly store a weapon? I dont leave my guns in the car unless I have to. However when I go home I take them out of the car and lock them up for the night.

Besides my biggest peeve is that this happened in Washington DC. Where little people like us are not legally allowed to own firearms. However this agent is and is irresponsible with them.

Wouldnt it be nice to at least have the chance to make the same mistake as the officer? How can I be negligent with my guns if I am not allowed to own guns? So we see the double standard at work. Perhaps they should not allow LE to carry weapons in DC?
 
What makes me wonder..........

The FBI is not the militia, right?

The mission of the police, a member which I assume to be is the FBI is to secure and maintain the order.

The Mission of the the military (as well as the militia) is to kill, maim and destroy in as quick and efficient a method as possible.

Machine guns would serve the military (militia) purposes stated above well. A machine gun has only the purpose of propelling many bullets at the single pull of the trigger. Thus though aptly suited to killing many people in as soon a time as possible, I do not find that type of weapon to be particularly suited to the maintenance of order.

Thus I wonder if there is really some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of maintenance of order by the possession of this type of weapon by the police.

Applying these principles to the present case, I conclude that the FBI's possession of the weapons in question is not reasonably related to the preservation of a well regulated militia and therefore should not be used by them.

Reversed and remanded to this guy's superiors for reconsideration of disciplinary action.
 
Bartholomew Roberts said:
Just curious; but if a gunowner here posted that his locked and alarmed vehicle was broken into and the locked security containers inside the vehicle were broken into, would we characterize it as "Gunowners arm street criminals!"?

I know that the dude would get flamed... Big time. I have seen folks get flamed for saying that they heard a noise and went to "clear the house".

The sad fact of the matter is that the guns from these police thefts will get used in a crime and then the VPC / Brady Bunch will go crazy and talk about automatic guns on the street and they will contribute to more reasons why they need to ban guns...

:scrutiny:
 
DON'TBURNMYFLAG - "If some liberal anti were to post an article saying "gun owners arm criminals" in regards to missing/stolen guns, everyone here would be in an uproar."


D.B.M.F., that is the standard mantra used constantly by the gun grabbing liberals. If I've heard it once over the years, I've heard it 10,000 times. :mad:

FWIW.

L.W.
 
Why would one person need matching pairs of all those guns? New York Reloads? Just because they're "free"?

Sounds to me like government waste of our tax dollars is alive and well.
 
I will concede that the title is misleading.

I like the title, if only because it reminds me of a THR member who had guns stolen from him, only to be scolded by a detective for "supplying the streets with guns". Yeah, well, chit happens.
 
He was SWAT and so had a need to have his gun with him for emergency callouts. Geez.

But he should of taken his weapons inside.
 
Terrorist threats, maybe?

He's FBI not the local cops.

He'd only be called out on matters the FBI was involved with.
 
We need to save these stories, guys. As Speer said, if numbnuts had been a mere serf, he would have 172 cops lining up to talk about "guns in the streets" and "somebody's little boy's not coming home because of you."

We need to be ready to throw these Springfield Police Department (the one on The Simpsons) acts back in their faces.
 
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