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From American Rifleman, Nov., pg. 45:

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Here's just some of what they have planned for us.

Federal Arsenal License: To possess more than 20 firearms, (and parts such as bolts would be regulated as firearms), 1000 rounds of ammunition, or just 1000 primers, you'd need a special $300.00 federal arsenal license. The three year license would require law enforcement approval and an extensive background check.

BATFE Home Inspections: To get an "arsenal license", you'd have to be willing to open your home to inspections by BATFE three times a year.

Small Handguns Banned: Possession of small caliber pistols and short-barreled revolvers would be banned. Also in jeopardy would be older guns, such as single-action revolvers, that lack prescribed safety devices.

Magazines Banned: Bill Clinton's ban on magazines of more than ten rounds would be replaced with a ban on magazines that hold more than six rounds.

Ammunition Banned: Ammunition determined to be "non sporting" would be banned. Any handgun ammunition left on the market would see a federal excise tax increase of 50%. Interstate mail order ammunition sales would be prohibited.

Waiting Periods/Gun Rationing: There would be a national seven day waiting period on handguns and handgun ammunition sales, and you'd not be able to buy or transfer more than one handgun in any 30-day period.

Registration: Buying a handgun, parts, or ammunition, would require a state issued photo-ID license. You'd have to provide fingerprints, pay a fee, and pass a firearm safety course to obtain a two year license. Buyers would have to "provide information necessary to regioster the handgun transfer. Transfer, (to an individual), of a handgun would require registering the transfer with the state's chief law enforcement officer.
 
Who's "they"?

Any citations, references, links, bibliography, anything?

Doesn't do much good otherwise. Not blaming you personally, but if AmRif left that info out, they rendered their article essentially useless.

-MV
 
I kinda remember that article, it was a laundry "wish list" of Brady stuff found on some Brady related website at one time or another IIRC.

A good number of the items were suggestions sent to them, not necessarily their plans for the next few years.

Maybe the OP will post the preface in the article. I just can't exactly remember but I do know it was used then, sort of like he used it here..... for shock value.
 
The "federal arsenal license" and all this other stuff's been around for years, I remember it being brought up during the Clinton era as the next step after the AWB.

Then we handed them their buttocks roasted on a stick, _because_ of the AWB, and that was the end of that.

The Forces of Organized gun bigotry generally can find a fool, er tool to file this sort of legislation, but that doesn't necessarilly mean it's going to go anywhere.


This is certainly a taste of what they _would_ do, if they _could_.

Our mission, whether we like it or not, it to see to it that they _can't_.
 
This is the law for amateurs. What do they have in store for people that really get into guns and ammo?:neener:

The more the gun grabbers want, the less they will get. They are just a little emboldened by their recent "successes" in the polls. The fat lady has not sung yet.
 
Molan Lave! THAT would be the line when the 2nd Revolution starts. And the hand wringing morons are gonna have their consciousness razed.:evil:
 
Wait 'Till the BATFE Takes Up The Cause. This Sounds Like...

...it would be something right up their alley - something for a little job security, you know.

The problem with bureaucracies is that they have been empowered by Congress(unconstitutionally) to make their own laws for the rest of us to follow. Congress can veto any rule an agency may make, but as long as Congress doesn't shoot something down, it is the law. Congress doesn't have to pass it as law and the President doesn't get a chance to use his veto power. Once you get enough of the right people ensconced into an agency, it's "Agenda city here we come!"

It sucks, big time. It is nothing less than an oligarchic dictatorship. Anyway, now you know why Congress has so much time to investigate, probe, make non-binding resolutions, campaign, appear on TV, bluster, and Filibuster. They've passed the buck of legislating onto the bureaucrats.

Woody

Look at your rights and freedoms as what would be required to survive and be free as if there were no government. If that doesn't convince you to take a stand and protect your inalienable rights and freedoms, nothing will. If that doesn't convince you to maintain your personal sovereignty, you are already someone else's subject. If you don't secure your rights and freedoms to maintain your personal sovereignty now, it'll be too late to come to me for help when they come for you. I will already be dead because I had to stand alone. B.E.Wood
 
woodcdi nailed that one. A beaurocracy knows no master. It evolves into a living growing organism that feeds off the life of those it was intended to serve. Nothing like additional unvoted regulations to justify the need for increased funding next fiscal year in order to enforce all these new directives that magically flew out of some directors arse like a flock of monkeys on fire.

We have elected career politicians who have but one goal, to get reelected and stay in power. In order to further that goal they have passed the reins of legislature on to career beaurocrats who are beholden to no one, certainly not to the populace.
 
Its bologna!

They are excerpts from that wish list of gun control laws that was circulated around to instill fear.

While Im sure that all the antis would love to pass those laws, there is no feasible chance of that happening. Not anytime soon however. I am not carving anything in stone.

It is NOT time for the internet commandos to starting typing greek phrases, checking their motion sensors, reloading an extra thousand rounds, and sitting back while cracking their knuckles at a post that involved the words "revolution" or "cold dead hands."
 
It is NOT time for the internet commandos to starting typing greek phrases, checking their motion sensors, reloading an extra thousand rounds, and sitting back while cracking their knuckles at a post that involved the words "revolution" or "cold dead hands."

You don't understand that the Founding Fathers rushed into the streets with their muskets shouting "Mouton Lapel" in order to terrify the redcoats and spook their horses. It didn't do much to help the sheep sleep peacefully either.

What I can't understand is why so many of our fellow citizens think that gun owners are scarey, stupid people who need to be disarmed.
 
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What I can't understand is why so many of our fellow citizens think that gun owners are scarey, stupid people who need to be disarmed.
I don't see that it is our fellow citizens thinking this without help. I see it as our govt. trying to become something it was never meant to be, and to accomplish that, they must disarm the general populace (the militia) so they can meet their agenda. In order to do that, they must flood the media with mis-information and flat-out lies, and the sheep addicted to the boob-tube will believe everything they were told, starting with GUNS ARE BAD, and because "it was on the news, and the media CAN'T lie", it must be true.

It is OUR job to bring the truth to light, one person at a time, I've started with my 17 y/o daughter and her boyfriend. My girl was afraid of guns, her boyfriend was neutral. I took them out this weekend to do some plinking with my 2 9mm pistols, daughter's second time, boyfriends first. They had a BLAST, and now understand that firearms are TOOLS that only do what they are told to do by the user, just like a hammer, screwdriver, staple gun, money or anything else you can think of. ALL can be bad if used improperly, ALL are good when used for their designed purpose.

2 down, another 2 in the works, how many million to go? Looks like I might need some help here.
 
One of these days I'm waiting for someone to propose federal legislation that requires one to register with the DOJ to have an ISP or Blog site. Don't think it won't happen in the US?:what:
 
One of these days I'm waiting for someone to propose federal legislation that requires one to register with the DOJ to have an ISP or Blog site. Don't think it won't happen in the US?

Anything that allows Big Brother to control what the subjects think and discuss is fair game. Their have already been attempts to limit access to the internet in some underhanded ways. PBS did an excellent article on it just last year.
 
I read about this during the mid 90s as the "blueprint" for Brady II. It was eventually ascribed to a pro-gun activist from california. It is unsourced because the author doesnt realize that it is fake.

It may well have been part of the original post-AWB plans, but any such plans died in the 94 elections.

The ATF doesnt have the resources to do once-yearly inspections of 50,000 FFLs. They certainly dont have the resources to do thrice yearly inspections of 100 million homes with guns in them. Even if there are only 10 million homes with "arsenals" in them, that would still require an enormous amount of manpower to execute. And this enormous excursion would do nothing but ensure that gun owners become politically active in response to harassment.
 
You know pepoles,It is time that we start taking names on these anti-gun know-it-alls and tell them that not only are their jobs in JEOPARDY[ HOUSE AND SENATE MEMBERS in DC] but,we should hold them accountable incase we get robbed,shot at or what ever happens to use when a criminal is caught using a weapon to do harm to us or our families. Hold anti-gun members of congress and senate to the accesible charges along with New York Mayor Bloomberg!!!!!!!!:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :cuss: :cuss: :cuss: :cuss:
 
Its bologna!

They are excerpts from that wish list of gun control laws that was circulated around to instill fear.

I first saw this yesterday (1995 I was not a gun owner) tell you the truth I didnt know if it was a brady scare tactic or one from the NRA.

But I could see the republican party "compromise" and have the Federal Arsenal License a reality....wheres a "war on terror"...going on out there.
 
Some what related...

...you would be surprised by the number of people who believe there is already a law limiting the number of firearms one can own at one time. A coworker of mine would sell a gun before buying one to stay under the 12 gun limit he thought was in place. He did not look happy when informed there was no such federal or state law in WI.
 
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