Five Year Plan for Banning Guns

Status
Not open for further replies.
Fosbery that is the best idea I have seen yet, if the anti's want to live in a police state then they can move to Euroland, this is quite a disappointing list, Dems are evil and must be stopped, unfortunetly the libertarians cant get enough momentum going to be a real threat to either party, darn.
 
I can't imagine all those things happening without a Second Amendment confrontation. It makes me all the more resolved to do what I can to influence who picks and confirms Supreme Court Justices. One way or the other, I will avoid Democrats.

My contribution to the GOA Political Victory Fund has been mailed.
 
the Republican controlled congress did pass that lawsuit protection bill for gun manufacturers last year. Plus we should remember the 94 AWB, under a democratic congress. Be aware that dems are more left, and the more left they are, the less they like 2A rights.
 
I have no doubt that the items on the list would get "Yea!" votes from the Congressional anti-gunners. You don't have to believe in "plans" or "conspiracies" at all. Just read what they've said, see how they've voted, in the past.

So, once again, I see it as most important that control of the House of Representatives stay with the Republicans. Holding the Senate would be good; holding the Presidency would be good, but if the media has any credibility at all, our best hope is the House.

The House is more pro-gun-rights than the Senate. Simple as that.

Art
 
Phenom:

I also said safe in my post too. Why the heck would I want to write that joker?

I'd bet that you'd like him if you would only take the initiative and write to him. Don't be shy or standoffish. Take the initiative.

Then maybe you can tell him what you seriously believe won't happen and he can tell you what he seriously believes has happened and is happening. It could be a lot of fun to see how your beliefs measure against reality when he shows you not only the laws that have been passed but also the ones that have been proposed and are being proposed. And then you can get to say again "I can't seriously believe all that will happen."

What you said, by the way, was "I can understand a good steel cabinet or safe" as if the two were interchangeable or you would get to choose. There are very high standards for approved gun safes in California, and they are costly. Why it's almost as if one of the tactics being used by anti-gun forces is to escalate the cost of gun ownership so that many people can't afford it even when it's legal--until they can make it illegal, which you seriously believe can't happen.

But you and I can have some fun too. I especially enjoyed your jokes about your "gun." Funny. But let's look at what you think, because that's where the humor lies.

Phenom:

Tell me, just how are they going to get the gun I was born with between my legs Gun is just a generic term. Banning replicas would mean banning squirt guns, cap guns and so forth, there's trillions out there. Banning of firearms is possible but unlikely

Start with your statement that "Banning replicas would mean banning squirt guns, cap guns and so forth, there's trillions out there. " But many school districts do ban replica guns and expel students who take one into school. Oh, sure, I know that's unlikely because you seriously don't believe it can happen (and for real good reasons too you betcha), but the more important point is that school districts think it's "likely" and they really, truly do it. So either you're living in fantasy or the school districts do. I wouldn't for the world want to say that you don't know what you're talking about, so it seems kinder to suggest that you contact the people who are actually doing what you seriously don't believe what will happen.

Now go on to your hilarious comment about your "gun":
Tell me, just how are they going to get the gun I was born with between my legs

I wouldn't presume to tell you about such a personal matter, and I understand that you're attempting to be funny, but it might be worth noting that even such matters have been addressed by governments that have ordered sterlization and castration for the public good. It would be nice to say "it can't happen here" but it has happened in the U.S. and probably still is happening. In fact the Eugenics Movement was born here and showed Nazi Germany the way to its most horrific policies: first to the sterlization of undesirables, then to their extermination, and then to the expansion of the "undesirables" so that Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals, Christian Scientists, and many other groups were legally defined as "undesirable" and therefore subject to death.

That "gun" of yours isn't exempt from deactivation or removal by a government. Gun owners are considered to be undesirables by many people. All it takes is a law, and your "gun" is grass. It happens, it has happened, and it can happen. What can't happen is that people could be required by law to strap themselves into their own cars: what a guy does within the guy's car is his own business, so it's seriously unbelievable that he could be required to strap himself into it. And what a guy eats is his own business too, so it can't happen that unsaturated vegetable oil could be banned. What a guy puts in his own mouth is certainly nobody else's business, so let's light up a cigar, pipe, or cigarette and chat together. Can't ban alcohol either, thank goodness, so none of us seriously believe in Prohibition. Can't send someone to jail just for taking a date on a vacation to another state or country: the Mann Act never happened.

Can't this. Can't that. Fantasies are lovely, until they aren't. Many other people here are in touch with reality. That's why they are upset. You're not. That's why you're happy, because you seriously can't believe that what's happening is indeed really happening. Lucky you. Have fun with your "gun."
 
carterbeauford:

I'd rather melt down all my guns than obey any of those laws. Good God

Not gonna happen, though

OIC, you aren't worried it will happen here. Regardless the fact it already has... Nope, everything is great for gunnies and we've no future gun control to fret over...
 
OIC, you aren't worried it will happen here

No, I'm confident my colleagues here will get as pissed off as I will if it even comes close to happening and rise up.

If it happened, as things stand today, I am guilty of virtually of virtually everything on that list. It would be a sad day if I had to move to a country that is more free than the USA.
 
The only reason there seems to be a left wing conspiracy is because more and more people are embracing their anti gun views and agreeing with them. Whether they're brainwashed or not, more people are agreeing.

Take Chicago for example. People here and in other gun forums lament Chicago and call for them to end their anti gun laws. And they do violate the 2nd Amendment.
However, when I visited Chicago, I couldn't find a single person who gave a rat's you know what whether they should be allowed to carry guns in the city.

I don't see alot of the stuff listed happening either. However if it does, there won't be anything we here can do about it. Because in the end, the Republicans and NRA will both give in and decide it's the best thing for us to be safe, the laws will be passed, and the only recourse gun folks will have will be armed resistance. And despite talk, I don't think the majority of the gun folks will be willing to give up their lives in resistance over their guns.
 
There really is a vast left wing conspiracy.

Let's be fair here, there is also a vast right wing conspiracy. Denial of that is just as stupid as denial of the left wing conspiracy.

Both have bad sides. I am personally very liberal, but I am really considering voting republican this election. Do I agree with republican ideals? Not really. However, I really preffer the fact that republicans get things done, rather than whining about them. I may not like what they're getting done, or approve of it, but I like that there is movement rather than just whining on the Democrat side. I also don't trust liberals with my gun rights. I don't think I should trust them.

Remember that this opinion is coming from a strong liberal. Hell, I have the soviet flag tattooed on my wrist and I used to promote communism.. Doesn't really get more liberal than that. And I STILL vote republican.

*butterflies fill stomach... waiting for the commie-bastard flames*
 
That depends on whether or not the "gun" owners have anything to live for or not.
 
Well, I think some of it is fear tactics. We have the most states ever allowing carry, they just passed a Federal law outlawing guns confiscations in disaster situations, states are starting to look at the 'stand your ground' laws, yet the screams about them taking our guns keep getting yelled. Sorry, but I don't buy it.

However, I know things can change very quickly too. If a bunch of antis gain the majority of the vacant Congressional seats coming up, things could change real fast.

However, many Republicans (Dick Lugar, McCain instantly come to mind) are just as anti gun as any Democrat. So how does anyone think our gun rights are secure regardless which of these two parties are running things?
 
Don't ever forget what Feinstein said: "If I could have gotten 51 votes for it in the Senate - Mr. and Mrs. America, turn them all (guns) in, I would have done it..."

Come Take 'Em. And she thinks Iraq is a quagmire.....

The Second American Revolution will start the same way the the first one did. Check your history, what were the British troops marching to Lexington and Concord to seize?

--wally.
 
Robert Hairless:

Well said sir ,I think that most people here are not old enough or
informed enough to remember those things you brought up in your
reply to this thread.
 
It would be a sad day if I had to move to a country that is more free than the USA.

There seems to be some controversy about this statement coming off as unpatriotic. You are free to interpret it as you see fit, but what I meant was that if that list becomes law, the USA is not going to be a free country anymore. Glad we cleared that up.
 
The United States will no longer be the United States if this crap keeps up.
 
So, on that list, where would you start shooting?

Maybe I shouldn't ask, but it's what I was wondering when I was reading the list.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top