Federal Bureaucrats Obstruct Armed-Pilots Law

Status
Not open for further replies.

2dogs

Member
Joined
Dec 25, 2002
Messages
1,865
Location
the city
OK, a show of hands- who out there really thought this was going to happen and be welcomed by the Fed? Folks, they don't have to ban them- all they will do is keep adding more and more hurdles and hoops one at a time, until no one will be able to easily and legally own a firearm.




http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/2/18/145634.shtml

Federal Bureaucrats Obstruct Armed-Pilots Law
Phil Brennan, NewsMax.com
Wednesday, Feb. 19, 2003

The bureaucrats who fought the arming of airline pilots are now placing outrageous roadblocks in the implementation of the law authorizing pilots to carry guns during flights.
The requirements proposed by the Transportation Security Administration, including exhaustive psychological evaluations, are "intrusive" and "obscene," charges Airline Pilots' Security Alliance (APSA).

Congress voted last year to allow the training of pilots to carry firearms on flights. The program calls for volunteer pilots to become "federal flight deck officers." But the requirements proposed by the TSA, which has until Tuesday to implement its firearm-training program and finalize its requirements, could discourage pilots from entering the program and all but gut it, frustrating congressional intent.

According to Tracy W. Price, a spokesman for the pilots group, the TSA wants each pilot who wants to carry a gun to submit to a wide-ranging background investigation, including interviews with neighbors, relatives, friends and co-workers, an interview with a TSA psychiatrist, a second government psychological exam and a medical evaluation.

Price said that many of the requirements were redundant because the Federal Aviation Administration conducts physical and psychological exams of pilots every six months.

"They're requiring us to jump through so many hoops so that we can't meet the requirements."

Price said APSA objected to some of the language in a draft of the TSA's guidelines for arming the pilots. That draft, he explained, shows that pilots have to "have the requisite mental, psychological and cognitive abilities as well as the discipline and judgment" to possess the firearms. The pilots also must "conduct themselves with maximum regard for the safety and security of the traveling public, crew" and federal air marshals.

"Our position is if you don't have those traits in abundance already, you have no business being an airline pilot," Price said.

In a statement Price’s group said, "The TSA (the same government bureaucracy that recently gave itself the power to unceremoniously revoke a pilot's certificate) will require from each Federal Flight Deck Officer (FFDO) candidate:


1) A lengthy and probing application and resume.

2) A government-administered psychological exam, testing AIRLINE PILOTS for things like MENTAL ABILITIES, JUDGMENT, DISCIPLINE, AND THE ABILITY TO FOLLOW PROCEDURES, POLICIES, REGULATIONS AND LAWS. Airline pilots must prove each day that they possess an abundance of these traits. What would happen to a pilot that failed to meet the TSA standard? Would the benevolent government bureaucracy be merciful enough to let him continue to do the job he has been doing quite well for many years?

3) A one-on-one "interview" with a TSA psychiatrist. The TSA will be screening to make sure that AIRLINE PILOTS CAN "CONDUCT THEMSELVES WITH MAXIMUM REGARD FOR THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF THE TRAVELING PUBLIC, CREW AND FAMS..." No kidding.

4) A very probing, intrusive and exhaustive government sponsored background investigation to include an "interview" with a TSA "security expert." They will call a pilots neighbors, friends, relatives, co-workers, previous employer and, in direct violation of the law, THEY WILL ASK HIS OR HER CURRENT AIRLINE EMPLOYER IF THEY THINK THE PILOT SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE FFDO PROGRAM. Considering the airlines longstanding and clear opposition to this program, we wonder what the answer might be?

5) A medical evaluation. Apparently existing FAA exams required every six months are inadequate for the TSA.

6) TSA agents will be skulking around FFDO training facilities with pencils and notepads OBSERVING THE BEHAVIOR OF FFDO STUDENTS DURING THEIR FIREARMS TRAINING and making sure they have the proper "mindset." Stand by for a hostile training environment.

7) ANOTHER "psychological assessment" after training is completed. Look forward to another TSA sponsored psychiatric grilling.


The time proven method, the one that is the safest and most secure way of transporting a firearm, is for the individual responsible for the firearm to carry it on his person. The TSA is not planning to allow this for FFDO's BECAUSE THEY WANT TO MAKE THIS PROGRAM AS CUMBERSOME, UNMANAGEABLE, UNWIELDY AND AS EXPENSIVE AS POSSIBLE in order to minimize the number of pilots that volunteer and to doom the program to failure even before it starts. GUNS IN UNATTENDED LOCK-BOXES OR IN UNSECURED CREW LUGGAGE WILL PUT ALL PILOTS IN JEOPARDY AND MAKE OUR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM LESS SAFE, but these facts conflict with the TSA's true agenda: To scuttle the FFDO program.

Price said that a "TSA attorney-advisor, Mr. Stephen L. Cohen has made it clear that the TSA intends to make the program so difficult, intimidating and burdensome that no pilot will volunteer."

"Airline pilots want nothing more than a reasonable, effective and safe program," Price said. "It is obscene to subject airline pilots, who willingly volunteer for this unpaid duty so that they can defend their passengers and crew, to the TSA proposed minefield. Airline pilots are not the enemy, the terrorists are!"

And, it appears, so is the TSA.
 
With the designation of Federal Flight Deck Officers, the door swung wide open to make armed airline pilots some sort of super cops. Understandable since the Great Unwashed Masses still think one bullet hole in the side of a jet aircraft will cause everyone to be sucked outside into the stratosphere. :confused:

The requirement for follow on psychiatric screening is more rigorous than any standard law enforcement position I know of. I was a county peace officer for 17&1/2 years and I only had one psychological screening.

Bruce
 
Man this armed pilot debate is amazing. Everyone I discuss it with seems to conveniently ignore that these people (pilots) already hold all the passengers lives in their hands (literally) and that there job already weeds out those who do not have exceptional judgement and situational awareness. Its like they believe being a jet pilot is something Sally Struthers can teach you in two short months. I'd be hard pressed to think of a group of individuals I'd rather have backing me up w/ a gun.
Maybe a pilot can back me up, but I also have heard that a large percentage of airline pilots are former military, where they used to carry much larger guns. I'm actually using this issue as a litmus test. I'll consider flying again when pilots have guns. Not because I think it will be safer, but because it will show that at least a small amount of rational thinking has been forced into the industry. Rant done.
 
A high percentage of airline pilots were military pilots. Some, like me, flew with high explosive ordnance hung on our aircraft over the United States without wigging out and dropping them on fellow citizens. Some even stood hot pad alert in Europe with nuclear weapons loaded in case the Red Army came through the Fulda Gap.

There are future airline pilots right now flying combat air patrol over our country in jet fighters loaded with air-to-air missiles like the Sidewinder, Sparrow, and AAMRAM.

Yeah, they sure need to be screened for stability, reliability, etc.. :rolleyes:
 
but because it will show that at least a small amount of rational thinking has been forced into the industry


I agree with your sentiment, but the industry isn't the problem!


Is anyone surprised at this? Tom Ridge is NOT freedom's friend!
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top