Federal selling ammo direct. (In Stock)

[Alex Clayton]

While it seems to set off a lot of shooters when people say roll your own, it also seems to set them off when many of us say where were you last many shortages? For those who refuse to learn from the past? <shrug> Can't help you.
For those who are new to shooting, or think maybe this time they should learn? OK, there is no such thing as no place to roll or time. When I learned I did it with just a book. This was LONG before Al invented the net. The cost to set up to roll, when the stuff comes back, is a few hundred total for a decent set up. As for place, I used to use the kitchen table. Set up a board I could C-Clamp to the table and put it away when done.
When you are talking strait wall pistol cartridges it's so simple that if you can put in a light bulb and not electrocute yourself you can load. Now days with the net it's something a kid could learn to do.
Time? Again I had little kids, Wife, home to take care of. I did it in batches. Would do a couple hundred at a time until they were done.
So this panic will be over, just like all the others before. When it's over those who got caught with their pants down again can make a choice. Buy more ammo than you shoot when it's on sale. Set some aside. Buy a Lee "kit". Will be around $100 when they come back. Later buy a set or two of the dies. Later get some powder and primers when they are in the stores and on same again. When the next panic hits, as it will, you can still shoot. The alternative, that many shooters seem to prefer is pretend re loading is rocket science, takes hundreds of hours of time, is expensive so not for them. When the shelves are full of ammo and it's on sale ignore it. Then when the next panic hits complain daily <shrug>

 

[alfsauve]

FYI: 21 days, exactly. Ordered 1,000 AE9DP on 8/6 and they arrived today.

Useful is the sort tab "Available". I go to the AE page and then can see all that's in stock.

Over the course of a week or two, they seem to have some of everything, but you just have to catch it right when they post it. Not cheap, sells out quick but at least it's there.

 

[bassjam]

FYI: 21 days, exactly. Ordered 1,000 AE9DP on 8/6 and they arrived today.

Useful is the sort tab "Available". I go to the AE page and then can see all that's in stock.

Over the course of a week or two, they seem to have some of everything, but you just have to catch it right when they post it. Not cheap, sells out quick but at least it's there.

Have you just been checking handgun ammo, or rifle as well? I got a buddy who's been trying to find any .223 to run through a bolt action he recently bought, but even the lighter varmint loads seem to be non-existent.

 

[huntsman]

All the comments about reloading during the Obama shortage years, when I was down to my last few boxes of ammo in several calibers, is what convinced me to give it a try. And like other's, I didn't think it was a good time back then with a baby on the way and massive home improvement projects taking up my time and limited space due to the home projects, but I bit the bullet so to say and carved out an hour here and there.

Right now I sure am glad I spent the last several years learning the ropes and stocking up on components, even upgrading to a progressive press over the winter. So I'm thankful to the guys that recommended reloaded all those years ago as a hedge bet against ammo shortages.

Yes but there’s a place for one to go for reloading information, I not advocating against reloading just the drive by sniping that doesn’t accomplish anything positive.

 

[Old Dog]

While it seems to set off a lot of shooters when people say roll your own, it also seems to set them off when many of us say where were you last many shortages? For those who refuse to learn from the past? <shrug> Can't help you.
For those who are new to shooting, or think maybe this time they should learn?

What does this have to do with the OP? Perhaps many folks looking for commercial ammunition now are in the habit of buy up ammo as they shoot it. What does the last shortage have to do with this? Seems you're implying that anyone trying to buy ammo now hasn't "learned anything from the last many shortages."

No one is asking how you learned to reload, and your implication that those who currently seek ammo online now seem to think reloading is rocket science and that they've ignored ammo purchases when the shelves are full is patently insulting.

Personally, I have an amazing stock of ammo on hand, but I'll continue to buy online as I see fit at the prices I see fit to purchase it at ... I have reloaded extensively in the past, but frankly, would rather spend my time otherwise, and since I have the disposable income to buy commercial ammo and it suits my shooting purposes, I'll continue to do so without the need for incessant reminders that I should "learn to reload."

 

[WVsig]

Have you just been checking handgun ammo, or rifle as well? I got a buddy who's been trying to find any .223 to run through a bolt action he recently bought, but even the lighter varmint loads seem to be non-existent.

https://www.sgammo.com/product/223-...j-m193-imi-ammo-made-israel-military-industri

https://www.sgammo.com/product/223-...eral-lake-city-green-tip-ammo-xm855fl-limit-1

 

[Old Dog]

Yep, sign up for the notifications with SG Ammo, Midway and Underwood and you'll be good to go. Pretty much you've gotta order the minute you get an alert, because stuff's selling out doggone quickly.

 

[WVsig]

Reload

Worst advice to people looking for ammo right now. Where are they supposed to get SPP, LPP or SRP? Powder is not as bad but there are still shortages of some popular brands. Try ordering some FMJ or plated 9mm 115gr, 124gr etc... Tell me where I can order some 45 ACP FMJ and have it ship in the next 6-8 weeks. The reality is you can't. The prices on all of those things have gone up about the same as factory ammo. It is just changing what you are scrounging for. It is not fixing the shortage problem.

I keep factory ammo and I reload. When factory ammo is cheap the reloading press does not get used much because I have better things to do with my time than play ammo monkey as my wife calls it. When factory ammo goes up in price I go back to reloading. The one thing I almost never do is save money either way. This is my hobby and a certain amount of money goes into it on a monthly basis. Sometimes that means I shoot a lot. Other times I shoot less depending on cost of ammo, time etc.... Reloading does not save me money it just allows me to shoot more. YMMV

 

[huntsman]

Yep, sign up for the notifications with SG Ammo, Midway and Underwood and you'll be good to go. Pretty much you've gotta order the minute you get an alert, because stuff's selling out doggone quickly.

+1 about 6 weeks ago I was able to top off my .40S&W supply with Blazer Aluminum for $13.00 a box.

after I ordered I shared info on a couple of boards and did the same when I found used M&P mags for under twenty bucks.

 

[Armybrat]

Federal said they would send an email notification when my order actually shipped (ordered on the 14th).
No email ever came to my inbox, but the shipment of 6 boxes of AE 9mm fmj 124 grain was sitting by my front door in plain sight of the street when I went outside at 7:30am to sweep the entryway this morning.
Guess the porch pirates took the night off... lucky me.

Didn’t really need it, but why not... even at double price over what I paid last year.
Just added it to the pile. Am going to burn through the old WWB & Remington to break in the new Ruger SR9, & PC Carbine, plus a Kahr CW9.

 

[bassjam]

https://www.sgammo.com/product/223-...j-m193-imi-ammo-made-israel-military-industri

https://www.sgammo.com/product/223-...eral-lake-city-green-tip-ammo-xm855fl-limit-1

Thanks, but as I said he's looking for .223 for a bolt action. He has plenty of 5.56.

 

[alfsauve]

You have to refresh the page frequently.

This morning;

Varmint & Predator Nosler Ballistic Tip 223 Rem P223P $29.99 Available Bullet Weight: 40

 

[potmetal]

I ordered on Aug 21st. I just got an email saying it has shipped.

 

[BreechFace]

Reloading doesn’t help much in a situation like we are in. I’m a reloader and the only area I see a benefit is to utilize components in a different way to satisfy extremely tight calibers.

But to say that reloading cures all the problems of supply isn’t accurate. Reloaders just like commercial Ammo users have to stock pile components in full supply times or they will be faced with the same problem as the commercial Ammo users.

I’ll put it this way given the current situation, and not using any components stockpiled, walk into a store and see how much ahead one is by being a reloader as compared to commercial ammo user. Who is going to walk out with more ammo in the end?

I’ll say it right now good luck finding any small pistol primers, at least around here. But I can find expensive self-defense 25ct commercial ammo sitting on the shelf.

It also always seems that the commercial ammo comes back sooner than the primers as a drought ends. Probably, due to manufacturers choosing to make complete commercial Ammo in lean times rather than sell components.

 

[Styx]

I don't reload yet, but I don't get why people are getting offended and getting underwear all up in a bunch over the suggestion. Really not that big of a deal IMHO. It's advice I should had followed and wished I did.

I for one REFUSE to pay these crazy prices for firearms or ammo, so y'all can have at it. Some nameless and faceless people out their are getting rich and are laughing all the way to the bank. It's just not going to be at my expense. YMMV.

 

[Old Dog]

I don't reload yet, but I don't get why people are getting offended and getting underwear all up in a bunch over the suggestion. Really not that big of a deal IMHO. It's advice I should had followed and wished I did.

I for one REFUSE to pay these crazy prices for firearms or ammo, so y'all can have at it. Some nameless and faceless people out their are getting rich and are laughing all the way to the bank. It's just not going to be at my expense. YMMV.

Well, now, Mr Styx, this particular thread is about buying commercial ammo on-line; the OP didn't start the thread asking whether he needed to learn to re-load. No one here that I noted got "underwear all up in a bunch," but did call out those wasting bandwidth with useless suggestions to reload. Kind of like a "1911 vs. CZ" thread where the usual asshat chimes in saying, "Just buy a Glock."

While I wasn't offended by a certain poster, his comments did annoy me to the point where I responded directly to him (refer to my post #30) as he pretty much made clear his feelings that anyone who doesn't currently have a good stock of ammo, or doesn't reload, is an idiot who's not been paying attention.

Old Dog out.

 

[wiscoaster]

I've been buying almost all of my ammo from various online sellers since the beginning of the pandemic. I was a little surprised to discover that Federal was selling direct. You'd think they were competing with their distributors and retailers. But you know what? I think it's a different strategy. I think they're intentionally competing with other ONLINE sellers, a strategy which would eventually support and benefit their chain to local retail sellers when the supply catches up to demand.

A website I use to find online sellers with ammo in stock for the caliber I want is called "Ammo Seek" and it seems to work quite well in real time.

 

[CapnMac]

"You should just reload" is a bit like "Free Puppy."
If you have no dog, with the "free" puppy you are going to need
Dog bowls
Dog food
Dog bed
Flea stuff
Collar
Leash
Possibly a crate
Probably training pads
And a pile of shots at the vet, and potentially, neutering.
Also, training
Not exactly cheap, this "free."

Just start reloading.
Loading data
Press
scales/measures
priming tools
Also (and some harder right now)
primers
projectiles
powder
and cases.

As noted above, all of that--like a puppy--needs dedicated time and space and storage.

The distinction is less stark if a person already owns a dog, or a reloading setup.

Nothing is entirely absolute. I remember being able to get WWB 5.56nato for $3 a box, there was no reason for me to get 5.56 dies at that price, even if I was loading my own cal..30 M2 Ball and Match loads.