felon stepson

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My stepson broke into my safe took my colt 1911 and beat the neighbor kid in the head for messing with his girlfriend. My wife said that when he gets out he cant live in the house if there are firearms in it. Does anyone know if this is so? So I told her I go where my guns go. So you have to decide what you want. I was woundering if anyone else out there ever ran into a situation like this?
 
I am definately not a lawyer (I am a special ed/social studies teacher) but here is my understanding...

A felon cannot live in a house with firearms. If he moves back in with you owning guns he is in violation of another law. I'm not sure if you could lose your guns at the same time he could lose his freedom.

This probably isn't the time for bluffing. If he is over 18 I can certainly understand telling your wife it is you or him, your guns aren't going anywhere. However, the mother-son bond is strong, if you do this you better be ready for her to pick her son (and see it as you picking your guns over her). Personally, for me guns would have nothing to do with it (and if you haven't already brought them up you may want to change the way you put it)- I wouldn't have a felon live with me who was old enough that I wasn't legally responsible for him.
 
Stepson

Throw him out. If he's not an adult it don't matter, you just gotta throw mommy out with him. She is responsible for raising a worthless, selfish, <loser>. Next time he gets in your safe he could get some ammo too and do worse. What if he's mad at you or mom next time? Really do you want to live with someone who failed to instill any values in her own flesh and blood?

Yes I'm rationalizing without knowing the whole story. Flame away:D :fire: :D

But really it's not a her or the guns issue. It's a can you trust her if she sides with him? I know that good people sometimes have bad little people. But that's often the exception. Don't look at it involving guns like was said before. Look at it as an association issue.
 
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I thought the law said he couldn't own them or have access to them. But I really don't know much on that particular law.
 
In CT most parole restrictions stipulate that the felon must not have access to any firearms. I was in the local shop about 1yr ago and a gentlemen was storing all his firearms at the shop until his son found a place of his own. The parole restrictions included this specific condition. My guess is your stepson's will too. Just my opinion/observation.
 
It wasnt a gun safe. It is more like a steel wall locker. I keep the pistols in that with the rifle ammo and the pistol ammo in the gun safe with my rifles. I asked the cops how he got into it and he just told them to f off. I know by this time I was at home and saw how he was acting. I told the cops I only have one key and it is with me. He told me dont worry about it he confessed to stealing it. Then the cops said your good at your job, were good at being cops, and some people are just good at stealing.
 
He steals your gun and it just happens to be a 1911 and pistol whips someone with it. Hopefully you won't play hell getting your 1911 back. He's garbage and what do we do with garbage? We throw it out:D
 
I have a good friend who's brother is a speed freak. When ever his brother is any where near by (in the same town) he locks up everything because he knows his brother would steal anything that he could get his hands on and will steal from anyone even his own mother. He started doing this stuff when he was a teenager and has never stopped. Even after being in jail many times and doing one stretch in prison.

If your stepson still has an attitude after his arrest and if that does not change quickly then there is nothing you can do but make sure that you are not anywhere near him. Since you will get nothing in return but heartache. This will be really hard on your wife and it will likely take years for her to accept that this is the case if she ever does. But if he does not have a huge change in attitude soon the best thing you can do is protect yourself and, if she will let you, your wife from him. If he is 18 or over he does NOT belong in your house.
 
check with a lawyer

any other source of info is worth what you paid for it. he been to court yet? hes not a felon till convicted. do you wanna keep them all? if hes young there is a chance to avoid a felony conviction
 
Time to invest in a "GOOD SAFE"... the kid already has a taste of what you own. Steal your gun once shame on him, Steal your gun twice, you'll probly end up the Felon.

I'd check with a lawyer, on the matter of him liveing with you.
 
Thanks for all the helpful advice so far. It is already more than I expected. And thanks for any futre advice and opinions.
 
took my colt 1911 and beat the neighbor kid in the head for messing with his girlfriend

Did he just watch the movie "Goodfellas"?

Although I think Ray Liotta used a snub nosed .38 to beat the neighbor who messed with his girlfriend.
 
Dunno about your state, but Oklahoma law says,

Amendments to OK ST T. § 1238 approved by the Oklahoma Legislature on April 24, 2002 prohibit any person convicted of any felony in this state or any other jurisdiction from having in his or her possession or under his or her immediate control, in any vehicle which the person is operating, or riding as a passenger or at the residence of the convicted person any dangerous or deadly firearm.

I would assume the felon cannot be at a residence where guns are present. This is also what we were told at our CCW class.
 
vmfrantz said: My wife said that when he gets out he cant live in the house

My response would be, "I agree . . . Its good we're on the same page. I don't want him living here either."


How old is he?
 
If he's under 18, it sounds like this will be a choice between your guns and your marriage.
 
Where is your 1911 now? Evidence locker? I would assume that is considered assault with a deadly weapon?
If I was in your shoes he wouldn't set foot back in the house again. Straight from jail to wherever he's going now. Belongings on the lawn. If his mom has to go with him, so be it. If she puts up a fuss then it shows you where her priorities are and how problems in the future will play out. Don't go down that road.
 
razorburn said: a choice between your guns and your marriage

Its a choice between living with a young criminal who has already stolen from his stepfather and assaulted another person, or choosing not to.


Guns have nothing to do with it. The decision in front of him is whether or not to allow such a person to make his house a home.


vmfrantz - I'll wager this is not the first time you've seen the young man exhibit behavior of this type, is it?
 
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Your right this is not the first time he has had a run in with the law. This happend in June 06. He had just gotten out of juvenile detion center in Feb. 06 for breaking house arrest rules, which he was on for stealing. I have not found anything that works to help this kid. :( He is now 17. I found out that I might not have to worry about this for a while though. My wife talked to him and he said that it is a automatic 5 years for using a weapon. Plus they are throughing in terroristic threats, resisting arrest, they had to kick in the front door. The 1911 is with the police. They claim I will get it back after he goes to trial.
 
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