Female Clerk uses gun to save child at store - front page Fox News

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Dnaltrop: I thought people on here thought that the Walgreens guy would lose his suit.




Basically because it was plainly against policy to have a gun and he had one.
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Good question. Do you mean your state of mind of your potential employers?






What would you tell your potential employer when you are doing a job interview? It could work against you, that's for sure.



That one Walgreens (I think) employee got fired for using a gun to defend himself.
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I wouldn't tell them but what if they know from the news or do a backround check and see I didn't put down a job or why I no longer work there is wrong?
 
I don't believe I spoke to the validity of his lawsuit, only confirming his firing, and that he was engaged in one for what he believes is wrongful termination.

This being the US, most jobs are "at will" employment, meaning you can be fired for no reason whatsoever with no legal recourse other than hitting the Unemployment line.
 
I'm bothered by this business of "training to shoot for the legs so as to disable".

I always understood that the operative principle was that, in the eyes of the law, if you had the option of aiming for anything other than the center of mass, then you might have also had the option to not shoot at all. Which, to me, makes perfect sense.
 
I always understood that the operative principle was that, in the eyes of the law, if you had the option of aiming for anything other than the center of mass, then you might have also had the option to not shoot at all. Which, to me, makes perfect sense.
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Cop (looking over the limp remains of the recently-departed dirtbag): "My gawd, you got him right between the eyes! Twice!"

Defender (thinking quickly): "Umm, well, uhhh, I was double-tapping for the uhhh, whadaya call it? Center of Mass? But I'm a really lousy shot."

(I'm not signing this one so nobody will know who posted it.)
 
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I'm bothered by this business of "training to shoot for the legs so as to disable".

I always understood that the operative principle was that, in the eyes of the law, if you had the option of aiming for anything other than the center of mass, then you might have also had the option to not shoot at all. Which, to me, makes perfect sense.
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What is this about "except the center of mass"? If you have reason to pull your gun and shoot, you have reason to shoot anywhere you can hit that will bring the threat to a halt. I do not hear about LE shooting anything but the center of mass.

What is the difference? The threat is there, or it is not, and if not, you should not be pulling your weapon at all. If it is a threat, the threat needs to be neutralized as quickly as possible, by whatever means possible. If that means shooting the center of mass, so be it.

Lets change the OP a bit. The BG is on the other side of the counter, and has just grabbed your baby which is in a stroller. How are you not going to shoot the center of mass? (or head)
 
good to see a woman defend herself with a gun, and the badguy dead.
To remain on topic, YES it would be nice to see mainstream TV networks discuss this story in regards to "normal" citizens protecting their family with a gun in public
 
I always understood that the operative principle was that, in the eyes of the law, if you had the option of aiming for anything other than the center of mass, then you might have also had the option to not shoot at all.
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I don't think it's any law particularly, just the fear that a prosecutor would try that argument to obtain a conviction even if the shoot was justified.

Don't know of a case where it has actually happened, but that is the fear anyway.
 
I think it's the same kind of logic behind saying the police should aim for the gun or knife in an assailant's hand instead of shooting them.

It's a nice thought that we can shoot someone "just a little bit", and they learn a lesson, but I don't think it's really practical when that moment comes.

Not that there haven't been a few documented exceptions, first to mind the suicidal guy in a lawn chair who lost his gun to a very good sniper.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDSwdZNbaGY

It's just going to happen so fast in most cases that the only thing that can come if it is being killed while you try for a kinder shot at your assailant.
 
Of course even if we ignore, that according to the article, she was trained to shoot the legs, it is a very real possibility that the legs were, practically speaking, center mass. It sounded like the guy was either reaching for, or holding her child/stroller. His legs may have been the only viable option to shoot.

No matter. It sounds like she did an outstanding job of protecting her children, and there is no real need to nitpick her actions in the moment. I am very glad to hear that neither her, nor her children were injured.
 
The sad thing is that I checked Foxnews.com within the hour of this thead being posted and I didn't see the article at all.
 
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Semi related, but if you were fired from your job because you used a gun to defend yourself, how would that affect you when you look for a new job?
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Well, you won't be able to use that job as a reference. The only question a former employer will answer any more (insert lawyer rant here) is "Is this person eligible to be rehired?" And if you were terminated for cause (as opposed to laid off), the answer to that would be "No".
 
Yeah I was wondering as well about what firearms class would teach anyone to shoot to wound. Now I agree hit wherever you can hit...

On topic, good on her.
 
Thats My home town. Dell"s was a stop off point going to or from work and as you go fishing to get bait shrimp. It is in a seedier part of town but what a money makeing little store. Glade to here this grandaughter took care of business.
 
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