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I have sort of an odd question and don't mean to offend anyone at all, but I heard something concerning from my father about Internet To FFL sales/transfers.


He said he heard a story from a guy at work that ordered a Springfield 1911 operator and had it shipped to a local gun shop to do the transfer for him. Being his first gun, he was very excited naturally and called so much that the guy got annoyed with him. He claims that the FFL was so annoyed with his constant calling, that he used a grinder or some similar tool to grind down the tip of the extractor just enough for it to not be able to hook on the cartridge.


This stuff never really happens....right?:uhoh:
 
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Yeah, good bar room story, but probably BS. But hey, stranger things have happened.
My FFL dealer has a very limited stock if guns in the shop. Like maybe a dozen hand guns, double that in long guns. A lot of his income is based on custom orders and FFL transfers. If he pulled some crap like that, or was even accused of crap like that, it would hurt his sales.
 
First, if you thought it was going to get locked immediately why post it?

Second, it's not gonna get locked now but the story sounds like complete nonsense to me too. After 50 more people post and say they don't believe it either maybe then it will get locked :)

Anything is possible I suppose but that one sounds pretty ridiculous. Be interesting to see if anyone has a good story.

Now, what MIGHT be true is that the gun shipped from the manufacturer with a crappy extractor. THAT is totally believable.
 
Because I have seen far more "Relevant" threads get locked before, That's all.
 
No idea if it's true, but there are some very petty people in all walks of life.
 
People like to make other people they distrust or dislike into bad people. This is called rumor-mongering, or blackballing. Frankly, most people would be too lazy to do something this vindictive. Mostly because if you didn't want to deal with someone, damaging the gun in a way that would result in a return sounds like the way to achieve the very opposite effect.
 
Sure it CAN happen. It takes all kinds of peeps to make the world go around. However, does it happen often? Probably not because it would be real bad for business if word got around.

In these days of Facebook and lightning fast communication, one angry customer can literally ruin small mom and pop businesses from their keyboards if the customer was vindictive enough. Only a fool would do the deed described in the OP's post.
 
Plausibility aside, what would be the FFL's motivation? If he didn't want to handle the transfer, then he more likely wouldn't have provided his FFL to the transferer.
 
Well, my wife's cousin heard a story from his friend, that his friend's brother said he heard his buddy's father-in-law heard about his bosses friend....... Oh, never mind, different topic, I digress. Sorry to waste your time,
 
Damaging the extractor would only increase the amount of unpleasant interaction, when I deal with difficult people I try and get them satisfied and out of my hair as quickly as possible.
 
A few years ago a guy here in the Dallas area posted (on another forum) that his transfer dealer took his gun out and "test fired" it. Yes, it was a NIB gun.
 
Plausibility aside, what would be the FFL's motivation? If he didn't want to handle the transfer, then he more likely wouldn't have provided his FFL to the transferer.
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Agreed, that seems like quite a bit of work to create an unhappy customer.

I find that there is mistrust among consumers regarding certain businesses like plumbers, mechanics, attorneys, and jewelers and treats them as if they are thieves. Some might be but most of these professions rely on repeat business and that will not happen if the business owner is being dishonest.

The same goes for a FFL. He/She needs the repeat business and they will not get it by creating unhappy customers.
 
Being his first gun, he was very excited naturally and called so much that the guy got annoyed with him. He claims that the FFL was so annoyed with his constant calling, that he used a grinder or some similar tool to grind down the tip of the extractor just enough for it to not be able to hook on the cartridge.
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It sounds to me that the kind of person who would accuse someone of intentionally grinding down an extractor like that, has a real problem. It would never even cross my mind, and I don't believe there is any truth to it.
 
never know but when folks order a gun online and they start calling everday or so and wonder where their gun is. just have them call or email or ? the seller and ask them to provide the tracking information.
Most ship ups or fed ex and you should be able to know when it shipped and when it is supposed to be delivered. simple and easy and just leaves what time the normal delivery time is at the ffl.
It is a very common question and may actually help some folks out.
 
If the FFL was that upset about the calls, it would have been easier for him to have refused to accept delivery of the gun. I agree, it's good bar-room fodder, and the reason many wear hip-boots.
 
I wish our FFL charged $5.00 for a transfer... Ours wants a sizzling $45.00 :what:


But theres really no one else so we have to deal with it.
 
I don't know...Anything is possible...For example...

I was waiting for my new shotgun to get in (this weekend) and I was tracking it via the tracking number sent by the vendor from whom I bought it. According to the tracking information on the USPS site, the shotgun arrived in Juneau at 0439 on Saturday, 05 February 2011. Excitedly, I got up, SSSd and headed out at approximately 1000, well after the shop opens, and generally afte the USPS deliveries (they usually deliver 1/2 days on Saturdays.)

The shop owner was not there, but one of the fill-ins were. I went up to the counter, and asked if my shotgun had come in from the vendor. The counter guy and another part-timer checked the boxes and said it was not there. They asked me how I knew it was in, and I explained that the USPS tracking and confirmation indicated it was in Juneau at 0439. The guy behind the counter went on to tell me how the USPS does not do business deliveries on Saturdays. I was pretty amazed, as I have been in my local barbershop on Saturdays when the mail was delivered and said so.

I went back home, pulled up the track and confirm, and sure enough found that the USPS tried delivering the box at 0830, but the business was closed. I printed this off and returned to the shop this morning, and asked the same counter guy if my gun was in yet. he said it had not gotten delivered yet. I mentioned that on Saturday, I ahd been in, and he stated the "not delivering on Saturday to businesses" and he affirmed that. I pulled out the receipt I printed from the USPS site, and showed it to him. He still clung to the same story.

Now, I am starting to wonder if my gun is sitting in the backroom...

Hopefully, this did not get too far off track, but I consider it an FFL "myth" because I know better, and have confirmation from the USPS...So I wonder who is lying?
 
Ronch said: Hopefully, this did not get too far off track, but I consider it an FFL "myth" because I know better, and have confirmation from the USPS...So I wonder who is lying?
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Seriously. You'd believe USPS over some part-timer at the gunshop? What on Earth in all your lifetime would make you believe that EITHER of those alternatives could be trusted to know the truth, much less to go out of their way to answer a query honestly?

Your gun probably was out for delivery on Saturday but since there was no one there to sign for it, it went back to the Post Office and now won't be redelivered until someone goes there with the package claim slip and picks it up. At least that's how it works here. Most of the time, the residential delivery contractor doesn't even ring the doorbell and just puts the slip in the box with the rest of the junk mail, even when it's obvious we are home.
 
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