FFL'S in Vermont/VSP

[crossrhodes]

I found strange and a little deceiving knowing that the ATF knows who is current or not. I had a Vermont State Police detective stop by with a list, which he wouldn't let us see, and stated that the ATF had asked the VSP to travel through the county and verify the FFL numbers on the license and if they are current.
I think it was BS since we do enough transfers and sales that the ATF knows we are current, we also just renewed our FFL 3 months ago. We complied, no reason not too, and asked if he would like to come in and check out the shop.
Then he makes the comment "he could come in if he wanted" ????. He's state and would need a warrant, I understand ATF could at any time but not a local unless they have a warrant. I didn't want to cause an abrasive situation so I didn't say anything about CFR 27 and who can conduct inspection with out a warrant. Anyone else run into this.
If you know Vermont VSP they aren't going to do the ATF's job unless ATF is paying their OT and the VSP has enough on their plate that I can't see them giving up a detective's time drive all over the county.

 

[NavyLCDR]

I wonder why this list isn't good enough:

http://www.atf.gov/about/foia/ffl-list.html

Something smells mighty fishy to me. A couple months ago the Washington State Troopers sent out a letter to all FFLs in the state asking them to provide transaction records on every AR-15 related transaction they had done in the past few months because they were looking for a "missing" AR-15. They wanted buyer and seller info. Funny how they couldn't just ask about the serial number that was "missing", eh?

They got the slap down from both the ATF and the WA State legislature for that one.

I'll bet VSP was looking for an unlicensed "dealer" who was doing business without a license.

 

[rich642z]

Yes,atfe told us the same thing but we only sell ar's to Law enforcement agencys. Still we,have to make and produce to atfe a copy of each ar sold to a law enforcement personnel. No one gets around it. Unless they[ffls]quit selling to anyone including leo.

 

[crossrhodes]

Thanks for the replies

They haven't asked about AR sales but then again, most of our sales, about 80% are to LEO's. I was just concerned that they were using the ATFE as an excuse or reason why they were taking the info.

 

[mgkdrgn]

That cops "story" has a distinct bovine scatology scent to it.

The FEDERAL agency that ISSUES the FFL's wants the STATE police to verify FFL's are current?

 

[MtnCreek]

Some states require a State firearms license, is that the case in Vermont?

 

[crossrhodes]

No State License

No Vermont does not require a state license for FFL's. I just hope it's not going hand in hand with the new anti firearm Governor that was narrowly elected and the supposedly new obama guns laws coming down the pike.
Vermont and it's liberal firearm laws have been a topic in D.C. lately.

 

[w1mnk]

My wife is from VT, and we lived there for a number of years. I can see where it would be a center of attention, what with all the gun crime running rampant